I was curious about this as well. Hypothetically, if they are really trying to extract insight, they could be:
- Industrial trend pattern: even if only people accidentally leave the Cloud Feature on initially, there could be some that slip through. It could be product categories way before the public knows about it.
- Defence and aerospace: obviously less likely, but if people use Strava in odd locations, and people share classified defence info on War Thunder, then it wouldn’t surprise me if someone slipped something through.
It wouldn’t surprise me if such automated analysis is setup somewhere in China.
In general, the PRC government will install local politically connected members into advisor roles in almost all large companies. It is something a lot of businesses simply have no control over in that country, or in the US for that matter.
The locked ecosystem posture is simply because with a billion people a firm of any size always has irrational competitors/cloners. Sometimes the governments national policy aligns with a firm, but the support always comes at a price for every business owner. Communism is certainly different with subsidized labor pools, and worker support obligations.
Both China and the US governments engage in trade policy/intelligence shenanigans to try to position themselves for whats more than fair.
Global businesses must learn there is no difference between feigned incompetence, and real negligence. As a small firm most simply can't afford to defend themselves legally if targeted, and vastly undervalue why QA checkpoint roles are important. =3
"Some agencies" covertly installing equipment at, what, 3 companies (at most) out of the millions in the country is categorically different than overt and widespread installation of party members into high-ranking roles in hundreds/thousands of companies.
Claiming that these are remotely comparable is either pure ignorance or blatant propaganda. Any sane person can see that these aren't in the same universe of things.
Yeah, that link isn't relevant to anything. You're just throwing out random garbage because your argument is invalid and you know it.
You're a propagandist.
Fortunately, the vast majority of people that I've talked to don't fall for this line of fallacy - I'm just making sure your lies don't fool those that happen to overlook them.
> means one has chosen to be part of the despotism problem
Yeah, this is unhinged. You need to up your propaganda training and/or change the LLM you're using to generate comments - this generally discredits your account extremely quickly.
One has a right to believe whatever they like, but most people already know the "Detect, Deny, Degrade, Disrupt, Destroy, Deceive" rhetoric you are spouting.
I for one praise our glorious leader. Have a wonderful day. =3
> One has a right to believe whatever they like, but most people already know the "Detect, Deny, Degrade, Disrupt, Destroy, Deceive" rhetoric you are spouting.
With every clinically insane statement you make, you're just continuing to undermine the positions you're trying to fallaciously support. You know that, right? The average HN reader is pretty smart. They can see that statements like
> ad hominem rhetoric means one has chosen to be part of the despotism problem
...are not made by individuals who are both sane and honest (i.e. not sane propagandists).
I know I can't convince you of anything - these rebuttals are just to expose how hollow this pro-CCP propaganda is to other readers on HN. And every unhinged message just brings your position further into the disinfecting sunlight of reason.
An LLM spamming users is against YC site usage policy. Note it is very common for congress members to end up at large firms. Have a great day, and maybe a walk outside will cheer you up more than gas-lighting people. =3
Yes, which is why you're likely the one breaking HN's policy. I'm actually making coherent points. Your messages are as incoherent and nonsensical as primitive text-generation models - very characteristic of LLMs, that can't actually use logic correctly, and just...make up stuff.
Yet another self-discrediting post for all HN to see. By all means, continue.
One is free to send a FOIA request for oversight activities by ODNI regarding embedded agent activities within corporations, and a detailed explanation of why these folks activity is usually protected by law.
Inferring these folks don’t matter is delusional propaganda. Yawn... Good bye. =3
Wow, the LLM actually went in a loop! I can copy-paste my response almost unmodified from the top of the thread:
Installation of embedded agents into a handful of companies (at most) out of the millions in the country is categorically different than overt and widespread installation of party members into high-ranking roles in hundreds/thousands of companies.
Claiming that these are remotely comparable is either pure ignorance or blatant propaganda. Any sane person can see that these aren't in the same universe of things.
Let me know when you're out of your loop (this is the third time your LLM has responded with "Have a great day" or "good bye" without stopping) and actually read the comments you're replying to and turn on your brain to reply.
Or don't - if anyone in the future comes to read this thread, your comments will completely destroy any shred of inclination they might have to believing your points.
They control supply and demand... and the US just found out their rare earth supply chain is insecure.
Japan has been dealing with their neighbors policies for years. And developed national state mineral reserves to mitigate political weather changes. =3
Makes me wonder if Anthropic is really having issues with allocating compute (see recent deals with xAI and SpaceX). From available benchmarks, it seems like similar results should be possible with GPT 5.5 Pro or Opus 4.7 (with specific cybersecurity trained models).
At least according to this, GPT-5.5 Cyber is on par with Mythic, as the only two models that were able to finish their 32-step corporate network attack simulation.
I just checked that I could see it in the Settings App search bar, but it does not show up under the actual App Store settings page, might be an implementation bug related to user region.
Edit 1: this was on iPadOS 26.3.1 (a) (23D771330a)
> The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) is a bipartisan, nonprofit policy research organization dedicated to advancing practical ideas to address the world’s greatest challenges.
Sorry, may I get more information on why this is considered Chinese army propaganda?
My understanding is that CSIS (https://www.csis.org/about) is an US based organisation that provides analysis on topics which include Chinese organisations/military.
Not specific to this article, but I generally like to find third party sources to confirm or deny the "bipartisan" and "nonprofit" parts of their about page. I've seen too many where that turned out to be false.
When you were a kid, did you stop listening when your parents said “Santa”, or did you keep listening in order to glean useful information from their propoganda, even knowing that Santa isn't real?
Were you under the impression the Chinese Communist Party has been telling you sweet lies only because they find joy in seeing your childlike naivety and wonder?
The general principle of extracting useful information from the scenario “(party a) tells lies because (ulterior motive b)” transcends the particular values of party a and motive b
If more people are able to step back and think about the potential growth for the next 5-10 years, then I think the discussion would be very different.
I am grateful to be able to witness all these amazing progress play out, but am also concerned about the wide ranging implications.
> think about the potential growth for the next 5-10 years,
I thought about it and it doesn't seem that bright. The problem is not that LLMs generate inferior code faster, is that at some point some people will be convinced that this code is good enough and can be used in production. At that point, the programming skills of the population will devolve and less people will understand what's going on. Human programmers will only work in financial institutions etc., the rest will be a mess. Why? Because generated code is starting to be a commodity and the buyer doesn't understand how bad it it.
So we're at the stage when global companies decided it's a fantastic idea to outsource the production of everything to China, and individuals are buying Chinese plastic gadgets en masse. Why? Because it's very cheap when compared to the real thing.
This is what the kids call “cope”, but it comes from a very real place of fear and insecurity.
Not the kind of insecurity you get from your parents mind you, but the kind where you’re not sure you’re going to be able to preserve your way of life.
Sorry but I think you have it the other way around.
The ones against it understand fully what the tech means for them and their loved ones. Even if the tech doesn't deliver on all of its original promises (which is looking more and more unlikely), it still has enough capabilities to severely affect the lives of a large portion of the population.
I would argue that the ones who are inhaling "copium" are the ones who are hyping the tech. They are coping/hoping that if the tech partially delivers what it promises, they get to continue to live their lives the same way, or even an improved version. Unless they already have underground private bunkers with a self-sustained ecosystem, they are in for a rude awakening. Because at some point they are going to need to go out and go grocery shopping.
My hot take is that portions of both the pro- and anti- factions are indulging in the copium. That LLMs can regurgitate a functioning compiler means that it has exceeded the abilities of many developers and whether they wholeheartedly embrace LLMs or reject LLMs isn't going to save those that have been exceeded from being devalued.
The only safety lies in staying ahead of LLMs or migrating to a field that's out of reach of them.
This has been my experience too, with installing common (Ubuntu, Fedora, and other popular ones) distros.
The only exception is when we got a really new batch of Lenovo P1 laptops for work, and the patches likely were not fully merged yet. So as long as you’re not getting the first batch it is generally pretty good.
I find it highly informative that the required PPE for working in that location is a life jacket so you float in case you fall in, rather than a tether and fall arrest harness so that it's not possible to fall in.
300 CPM is nothing, background levels might be 150.
Background is probably a bit lower depending on where you're at. My counter went through airport security luggage scans 'cause they wouldn't let me wear it through the metal detector. It beeps for a few seconds and then comes out about a days' dose of natural radiation higher. The count was higher than 300 CPM, but obviously only shortly.
That poor bloke might stay at 300 (if ingested and he can't scrub it off) for a while but it's still not very discouraging long-term. Pilots have about that at cruising altitude.
He went back to work the next day. They don't provide much detail about the minor injuries but it seems that the biggest issue is maybe a bruised shin from the fall.
Thanks for mentioning this here, I learnt a lot more about Gordon from the video there, and I think we all have something to thank Gordon for - both directly and indirectly.
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- Industrial trend pattern: even if only people accidentally leave the Cloud Feature on initially, there could be some that slip through. It could be product categories way before the public knows about it.
- Defence and aerospace: obviously less likely, but if people use Strava in odd locations, and people share classified defence info on War Thunder, then it wouldn’t surprise me if someone slipped something through.
It wouldn’t surprise me if such automated analysis is setup somewhere in China.
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