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I have direct knowledge of at least one instance of this happening in California.


Why don't you sue?


Would you? That allegation, if true, would open a whole bag of hurt without definite, irrefutable proof. You'd need more than personal experience to push that through the court system. You need full, authenticated documentary evidence, from multiple channels before that charge had an ice-cube's chance in hell of being treated seriously.

This is one of the main difficulties of challenging governments in court. The proof of guilt needs to be orders of magnitude above that needed to prove an individual person guilty, as they can always divert the blame to some unknown, undocumented, "unauthorized" section of the staff. Scapegoat found, case dismissed, continue as before.


Depending on the evidence I had, I probably would sue.

The plural of anecdote is data. The important question is: "Data about what?".

Sometimes it's data about human psychology, sometimes it points to facts.

One complaint without evidence can be overlooked by every judge, but how about two independent? How about five? How about ten?

Even if you have nothing but eyewitness testimony, there is much value in filing an official complaint.


Technically a bunch of anecdotes is data, but is it good enough for a court? Eventually you'll need some actual proof.

> Even if you have nothing but eyewitness testimony, there is much value in filing an official complaint.

Some would prefer to do this anonymously, but then it tends to carry less credence in court. Attaching your name to an official complaint such as this could be seen as risky, depending on your trust in your local government.

Your stance is 100% correct from a moral standpoint, but may not pass many people's risk vs. reward filters.

I'd love to be proven wrong.


I should say here that I have direct knowledge of this because my best friend worked for customs (who was involved in the raid, who is involved in basically all raids within the 150 mile exclusion zone or whatever insane distance it is near the border) and was tasked with retrieving and delivering the phone number of the target to the person that made the call, and was present while the call was made. 1) I am nowhere in the chain of people on either side of that raid, 2) This happened several years ago and my best friend no longer works for customs, 3) This is not even the shocking kind of thing that happens in the course of the US government conducting its business. While outrageous and almost unbelievable, the real shocking stuff is what customs and border patrol (CBP) can do within that 150-mile exclusion zone (or whatever it is these days, 300, 500, who knows). This is why all local and federal law enforcement raids are accompanied by customs people, since they have the power to do whatever they want, literally, without a warrant. So the raid technically becomes LEOs "escorting" customs officials. Srs bns.


Sue the DEA, home of parallel construction? At least they aren't beheading women, I guess.




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