Thanks. They're on my 'to contact' list. Hell, maybe they'd even want to move to an area with less junkies. They seem to have a great community, but they have a terrible address.

I really like their 'principles' page. I think that's important to have up in writing, publicly, and not fixed in stone.

Their insistence on GPL'ing everything might be an issue. I would hope that most projects would be GPL'ed, but it would definitely limit the business potential having it mandated.

something to note.. vhs is not only GPL we have been taking about rewording this for a while. Anything developed by VHS as a vhs group project is CC/GPL/BSD/etc. That being said members are free to show up and work on their proprietary projects. Also, open/group projects do get priority when it comes to shared tools.

p.s. there is alot of awesome aside from the junkies in the dtes. ;]

Thanks for the clarification. That seems far more practical than what I was imagining.

Encouraging open source and group projects is definitely going to be a priority at whatever we end up building. I'd love to chat more with you about other ways of doing that.

is there a reason why you want to build another one and not improve the current one? stop on by.. it is every ones space.. we actively encourage other groups to come try and take us over =].