hey there.

i hate java. i hate java as much as i can. and i love hating java. java must be hated. java must be estranged. java must die. but definitely not the jvm. that's a beast i love. i use clojure and fantom on the jvm.

And Scala! don't forget Scala.

Forget the 'cool guys', the best software engineers love Java.

My internal me was screeeaming just to put "citation needed" here (I've never done it before, this is not a good time to start). And while I agree with you on a certain level; I don't think "Java engineers" are the best software engineers per se. Neither that the best software engineers love Java 'without exception'.

I agree [with you] that Java invites you (nay, urges you) to use good engineering practices.

But you love Java for its exceptions.

It's sad I can't edit my message anymore. Thanks for lightening it up.

At least exceptions ensure (...) - at least in Java - that errors are forced to be dealt with in a certain way.

bulte-rs - orkoden: 0 - 1; I love Java for it's exceptions (and "the IDE's" telling me to catch them all).

You're assuming facts not in evidence.