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Right. Their argument is invalid because if some hypothetical future even happens, you predict that their attitude would change.


"Hypothetical": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foiled_Islamic_terroris...

And those are the ones we know about, Obama doesn't spike the ball on that stuff quite like Bush did.

And if you think there wouldn't be global ramifications for blowing up the New York City subway line you're not thinking clearly.


So in 20+ years we have 12 cases? And how do we know any of these cases are actually true? Because the people who benefit from wiretapping us claim it's true? The cases I follow have all been clear cut cases of entrapment (where the victim still went to jail!).




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