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Nicer version that would've sufficed: (which I think the OP actually intended to convey, but is such an ass as to be incapable)

If you have obligations to other people, keep them. If you know it will be very hard to make that 8am meeting, ask if it can be rescheduled or if it is really necessary for you to attend. You should feel guilty when you make an obligation and break it.

Some people are night people (me included). If you are one of those people that can barely drag yourself out of bed before 9am, then accommodate for that when possible.

That being said, I completely see the otherside where people have so much trouble getting out of bed, even with obligations they intend to keep. I find that in this case, it's usually a matter of importance. I'll wake up at 6:30am to go catch a flight because I'm not going to lose a $500 ticket. I have a hard time waking up for some arbitrary 9am "on-time" value that my boss set at work.

I had an experiment once where I worked from 1pm to 9pm, by choice. I was significantly more productive, and having a slot for "business hours" stuff that can be done before work meant I never needed to leave except for when I caught lunch/dinner. I can't do that at my current job, but I at least don't have a "hard" time at being to work until 10am, which is when stand-up takes place.. and I've missed stand-ups before, but they're just important enough that it motivates me to almost always wake up on time



> That being said, I completely see the otherside where people have so much trouble getting out of bed, even with obligations they intend to keep. I find that in this case, it's usually a matter of importance. I'll wake up at 6:30am to go catch a flight because I'm not going to lose a $500 ticket.

I've lost such tickets no matter how much I wanted to. I've tried both going to bed early and setting a million alarms, and deliberately staying up all night (then passing out in the early morning) even though I knew the cost to my alertness and long-term health if I pulled it off.

It must be fun to think that if afflicted people just "wanted it more" it would no longer be an issue. If we just "wanted more" to get to your arbitrarily in-person arbitrarily 10am meeting, I guess we would just do it. We must not "want" the job enough.




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