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Giant squid filmed in Pacific depths, Japan scientists report (phys.org)
113 points by valuegram on Jan 8, 2013 | hide | past | favorite | 41 comments


I remember when I was little, hearing that they had no real recorded evidence of the giant squid. It immediately created this massive sense of excitement and wonder as to what else could be swimming around in the ocean.

I still to this day am in absolute fascination of random pictures that show up of creatures from places like the Mariana Trench. It just boggles my tiny brain that so much biological diversity exists.

Here's a few that popped up on Reddit the other day -- http://imgur.com/a/xkfSv

"And lo on the seventh day, God slammed a bunch of shit He wasn't finished with down at the bottom of a trench and hoped that nobody would notice."


Good god man! between the anglers (http://i.imgur.com/zTHuT.jpg), and the goblin sharks (http://i.imgur.com/40WP8.jpg) ... stuff of nightmares!


At the risk of turning this into Reddit, here's a humorous anglerfish video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-BbpaNXbxg


aaahahaha ... the part when the angler fish was comparing it's camouflage slayed me.


Indeed! Most of the pics show ugly aggressive-looking species, but the Hatchetfish (http://i.imgur.com/hd53Y.jpg, http://i.imgur.com/lZuFS.jpg) are the creepiest by themselves.

Hatchetfish: ghost-dead-floating fish-heads from hell!


That's what people look like through 'Truth sunglasses.'


Great gallery, unfortunately it will ruin Hollywood monsters for the remainder of the year.


This is a better link I think, it has the video of the film being aired in Japan.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/08/giant-squid-video-j...


Thanks for that. I thought it was rather strange for an article about video footage to have only two stills from the video rather than the video itself.


You want weird, search for it on YouTube. You'll find videos Ken Burnsing around on those same two still images, while people talk about how sweet it is.


What does that mean?


Ken Burns is a historical documentarian known for using slow pans and zooms over still photographs accompanied by voice-over narration.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Burns_effect


This link has a bit higher quality, but less footage and way more annoying news anchor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KN5N1QDaRQ


I know the ocean is huge, but why don't we (or are we?) send hundreds of micro-robot vehicles down?

> After around 100 missions, during which they spent 400 hours in the cramped submarine, the three-man crew tracked the creature from a spot some 15 kilometres (nine miles) east of Chichi island in the north Pacific.

Because that sounds sub-optimal. Do you really need humans for tracking?


Well, how do you communicate with the robots? Radio waves don't penetrate water.

So say you have a robot that's autonomously floating around look at stuff and then it goes by a giant squid. There is no one to tell it "Hey! Look, a giant squid! Stop and turn your camera at that!" so it just keeps going.

Also, I have no idea how they would know where they're currently located (again, no GPS).. but I'm sure they have some solution.

One huge advantage I could see is potentially you wouldn't need to pressurize anything. Optics can easily be made to work immersed in water, electronics can be slathered in epoxy so you don't get any short circuits. Then there shouldn't be any limit to how deep the thing can go.


> Also, I have no idea how they would know where they're currently located (again, no GPS)..

US Naval Submarines have done this for a long time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_navigation_system


And they are good at it.

I spent some time on a submarine and navigation is one of the most critical things to the cruise.


What about a fully autonomous submersible that surfaces periodically to get its bearings from GPS, upload data, recharge through solar, etc... It could be programmed with a certain number of goals and priorities and follow the goal with the highest priority given some parameters.


Or, what about using low power radio to communicate relatively short distances to other submersibles scattered upward toward the surface, forming a mesh network that eventually has an endpoint connected to the ship or satellite?


Poseidon Exploratory Advanced Research Laboratory. PEARL.

A string of submersible robotic submarines linked by really long cables that are dangled into the ocean.


Well, it's an autonomous robot. You only need to communicate with it on the surface. (Maybe some emergency communication feature is handy?)

You give it some kind of sensor. When it finds something bigger than 3 m at a depth of more than 500 m you start following it. I'm not saying that's easy, but we have self-driving cars and we send robots to Mars (average distance 200 million km). I'm sure we could do it, if there was interest.


It's has to orient itself in 3d space somehow. Wikipedia says the best you can get with dead reckoning drifts by .6nm/hr. I'm guessing that can be useful in some cases, but it probably limits a lot.


One needs acoustic signals for underwater communication. I work with underwater modems, and we use frequencies in the 18-34 KHz range. Other modems can operate in bands from 8-50 KHz.

Autonomous underwater vehicles are an active area of research. One of the challenges involved are localization once the vehicle has dived. You cannot get GPS under water, so one way to localize yourself is by tracking your velocity/acceleration once the dive has begun. Another way is to exchange messages with your peer robots and devise a distributed location resolution scheme. See some of the work done in my lab in these areas: http://arl.nus.edu.sg/twiki/bin/view/ARL/STARFISH


This is, for the most part, a solved problem. It does require a really long cable and a person at the control panel though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remotely_operated_underwater_ve...


there are plenty of unmanned submersibles and they regularly produce new images, but it takes a pretty good chunk of energy to move around, following "interesting" things isn't easy to automate and wireless is a non-starter at that depth so they're all still tethered to ships/platforms.

if you've got something like a whale where it surfaces often you can do wireless tagging but that's about it for automatic exploration.


You should have a look at some of the preliminary work being looked at for exploration of Europa, http://www.ted.com/talks/bill_stone_explores_the_earth_and_s... is one starting point though there is plenty if you browse the googles


hard to train a classifier for an animal no-one has seen.


Architeuthis, one of the "last mysteries of the ocean."

I thought it was generally held that we know less about the world's oceans than we do about the space around us.


If you love this sort of thing, I'd love to suggest you join:

http://www.reddit.com/r/deepseacreatures/

Amazing pictures from a brand new (day old) community. :)


Wow. Giant squid are the coolest thing next aliens in my book. Read a 20 pg article about them in the New Yorker once. Thanks for sharing!


Come in Tokyo. Giant squid spotted. We have it in our wholly Yakuza-run scientific and diplomatically supported squidding sights. Target confirmed. We have T minus five to wok... T minus four...


You laugh, but biologists who study squid often do like to eat them. I've heard that at least one species is only documented in one report that includes pictures, measurements, and a description of how it tasted.


Architeuthis in particular actually has too much ammonia in its flesh to be edible (some researchers compare the taste to floor cleaner).


Good tip.


I would have thought that a trip down to the Southern Ocean under the same guise as the whaling fleet. Killing on the name of science.


Japanese researchers discover giant Takoyaki in unprepared form.

Why is it always the Japanese researchers that study these yummy species like squid and whale? Is it that kind of research that ends with shipping the study probes to a high class restaurant at the end?


When are they going to start hunting them to extinction for delicious, scientific reasons?


I can't wait for them to release the Kraken footage.


Reminds me of the the giant squid from Michael Crichton's Sphere.


In the still it looks like Iron Squidman.


Its a viral for pacific rim!!!!




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