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So your solution is that purchasers just need to buy from someone who tells them that the commodity is clean? That is definitely what many do, and what the conflict minerals regulations have encouraged companies to do, but I don’t trust any unverifiable information.


My point is that these companies know that slavery is being used. Nestlé quite literally admitted to it!

If we're going to be a fascist dumpster, why does everyone pretend it's some inherent right that the corporate wigs get all this insulation and that there's simply nothing that can be done against quite literally the worst crimes against humanity that we could possible participate in?

The literal bare minimum someone can do is get a written affidavit from their supplier that the chain is clean. I'm a stupid individual man and somehow I can take the extra hours required for damn near every purchase to look up who I'm buying from and where it comes from. Sometimes I even go without! But companies worth quite literally tens of billions can't?


If all you have to do is get written affidavits, you’ll just create an industry of co-minglers and liars abroad, without changing anything. I don’t think this is a readily solveable problem.


Then you make it illegal to do business with countries that don't have an extradition treaty for slavery!

I cannot fathom this mindset. This is human slavery! This is worse than murder and rape and child endangerment, because it inherently includes all of them! It is the worst crime you can commit onto another human being for decades and decades as you drive them into the grave. I've seen a picture of a man looking at the severed hands of his daughter for bananas! But you're willing to handwaved it away like it's a minor inconvenience?

As if a country that is currently demanding OpenAI give them every chat they've ever had, including deleted, a country that has every phone call and text ever made, that has privileged access to emails and photo clouds and search engines for monitoring, that runs countless poisoned exit nodes and honey potted websites, which infiltrates domestic and foreign cults and rings and governments with spies regularly, that publishes papers on how to spy on citizens walking through their homes via wireless signals and hear audio through hard surfaces by using vibrations in leaves, that operates military cities and steers security standards and has quite literally unlimited money for their war machine, which can track individual human activity from space can't find out if millions to billions of pounds of materials going through their ports being inspected by their customs with manifest signed by domestic companies with paperwork uses slavery!?

Oh, come on. When it's about SpaceX taking humans to Mars we're all "we do these things because they are hard" but when it comes to ending the most abhorrent crimes against humanity of our times you throw up your hands and declare "the billionaires told me it was hard"!?


> If we're going to be a fascist dumpster, why does everyone pretend it's some inherent right that the corporate wigs get all this insulation and that there's simply nothing that can be done against quite literally the worst crimes against humanity that we could possible participate in?

I mean, historically, Fascists and Capitalists have been pretty hand-in-hand so that's far from even strange to me. Despite the Nazi party having Socialist in it's name, they literally coined the term "privatization" to describe their process of selling public-good utilities and services to private owners so they could profit off of them.




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