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What kind of idiot would work for free and pay taxes when they could work on their side project for free, use UBI for rent, and not pay taxes?

Probably not the industrious and productive kind I'm sure.



And how would UBI change that? The kind of people who are willing to break the law to avoid paying taxes are already breaking the law to avoid paying taxes.


Right but now the rest of the people have no reason to pay taxes so you're going to be printing money for everything.


You're reiterating my "UBI will be miserly" point. Yes, if taxes were set at 100% to support a $40k/year UBI, I would quit my six figure job to make $10/hour cutting grass under the table. OTOH, if my taxes went up 25% to support a $10K/year UBI, I wouldn't.


> What kind of idiot would work for free and pay taxes

If you work for free, your income is zero and you won't pay taxes. You'll still get UBI though.


Right so why would you do anything difficult like the hard labor required to maintain infrastructure?


Because you need/want more than $10k/year to live on?


The only thing that changes is that, with UBI, nobody is forced to work in degrading conditions so they can feed their children.


It's absolutely not going to work if you can afford children without working. Literally zero people will do anything they don't absolutely feel like doing under that social regime.

No country can run entirely on charity.


Then society will figure out a way around that - either by paying better, offering better job conditions, or automating the work away.

Instead of thinking about the toilet cleaners we’ll lose, think about the poets and physicists we are missing because they need to clean toilets.




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