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Just like every other part of life, I'll generally call people what they ask to be called. Türkiye has requested internationally to be known under this name.


The government requested that, but not its people. Apparently it was a branding exercise: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61671913


Yes, it’s a rebranding, that’s what the word means.


One doesn't get to dictate how their name gets rendered in a foreign language. The government of Turkey can feel free to ask, but the collective answer from the English speaking world should be "no".


> The government of Turkey can feel free to ask, but the collective answer from the English speaking world should be "no".

Why? This just seems like dick behavior for no benefit to anyone.


I disagree. Again, if the German government demanded everybody call Germany "Deutschland", I'd say "we've been calling Germany 'Germany' for hundreds of years. The English word for Deutschland is 'Germany'. People are entitled to use the language they like, nobody is stopping you promoting 'Deutschland' and seeing if that takes off." It is not analogous with an individual person's name.


> The English word for Deutschland is 'Germany'.

Sure, right up until people start using Deutschland. Prescriptivist attempts to control language will always fail.


Then English would be using a German word, much like the rest of the english language. It doesn't magically make it English


> It doesn't magically make it English

It does if people use it enough.


It sounds like we don't disagree!


Updating everything, teaching everyone, no benefit to English speakers besides being nice. What happens next year if they wanna switch it back? And then the year after that if it changes again?

How many countries go through some sort of rebrand in a year? Who gets respected and who doesn't? Why?

Or we could just keep calling it what we call it.


We'll take it under advisement. In the meantime we'll see if they start writing Sverige instead of İsveç.


When speaking in english, Sweden renders its own name as Sweden. They are free to request people spell it Sverige and I would respect that, too.


My keyboard doesn't have a Ü


A decent compromise could be to spell it Turkiye on an English keyboard. The article's url does that already.


Well, there are no umlauts in English.



That's not an umlaut, that's a Ü. It's just a normal letter in Turkish, unlike in German where the umlaut is a vowel modifier.


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Of course I would try. What's the issue with any of that? Such a weird thing to take a stand on.


I'd learn. My capabilities aren't static with time


Why do you think it's just them? We have stopped calling Birmania like that, same as Ceylon, or the Czech Republic.

I'll keep using turkey out of habit but it's not like it's an uncommon occurrence for a country to ask that a different name be used.


Funny you mentioned the Czech Republic: there is a concerted effort by their hockey federation to be called Czechia and we’re getting blasted with it by Bell Media in Canada for the past few years


I wonder if this this region/language dependent. Because I remember that in russian, they’ve been called “Czechia” since at least when Czechoslovakia got broken up, but in english it still seems to be squarely referred to as “Czech Republic”.


it's definitely language dependent, we used to (mostly) call it "Repubblica Ceca" in Italian but have largely switched to "Cechia" now.

Which is weird enough, since Italy is literally called "Repubblica Italiana" on our own passports, but we never call it that.


Rossiya isn't very different from the western Russia tbh

Maybe the best example would be pronouncing Iran correctly.


Try also saying "Al-Mamlakah Al-ʿArabiyyah as-Suʿūdiyyah" instead of Saudi Arabia.




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