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That's 100M monthly active users, not paying subscribers.


Yes, that is why I say 'if they had'. No way they have that many now but amoungst my associates many are still just starting to purchase the payed subscriptions.


Agreed, but with Bing powered by GPT 4, there isn't that much advantage.


One advantage that I hope a paid version of GPT4 has (like ChatGPT Premium) over a free one (like Bing), is that it is a matter of time before the Bing answers will be polluted by whatever an advertiser is willing to spend its money on. Whereas with ChatGPT I am the paying customer.

I say "I hope", because time and time again it was shown that companies happily take money from both sides and skew the product to the wishes of the one that pays most, i.e. not me.

And since the results of AI are way less transparent than the appearance of an ad, the user will be screwed. If anything, GTP is a master of undetected product placement.

So in the end it will all be in vain, but for now, the paid version looks better than the free.


It is no less transparent than google search in the end.

You are right. This is a war google has lost.

I wonder if we can have a adversarial process that can do better in the AI domain than google can do it in the domain they use for search?

Can we run search through vicuna making it less or more biased?

I think at lower layers, embeddings vs search network they are probably similar.


If you’re paying $20/month then I guarantee you’ll be the one paying more


Not for many specific topics. If Nike pays OpenAI millions of dollars to overweight their products in the model, do you think they are going to say no? Maybe for now during the hyper growth phase, but long term I expect there will be hundreds of companies with large ad budgets paying the leading AI companies to skew output or censor certain results in their favor.




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