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I don't get why employees leak like this. They know full well that the company does not want to reveal info and the employees are told not to leak too. I don't get what they get by leaking. In this case the girl is not even getting any money. Even if they get money it will never be enough to cover for a 6 figure salary + stock options. Such foolish people in this world throwing hard work away. If you don't believe in secrecy or believe in revealing info for what ever reason, just dont join the company, it's very simple.


The woman (why "girl"? that's weird.) who was the Apple Employee, was allegedly the sister of the person who leaked it publicly. I think a lot of people have different boundaries between things they might share in their immediate family vs. with Twitter. The woman broke her contract, but her sibling broke common-sense norms.


Yeah not sure, I thought the article used the word girl and so I used it, but looking back, I don’t know where I saw it. It did feel weird using it


Never worked for Apple, but do their employees not go through regular training regarding disclosing company confidential and proprietary information?


Indeed they do (although that fact itself might be confidential and proprietary as well).


Classical "Counter-intelligence" wisdom boiled it down to the acronym "MICE".

- Money

- Ideology

- Compromise/Coercion

- Ego/Extortion

Apple has about 164,000 employees - it's difficult to hire for the skills you want and also avoid any potential for these motivators. Especially when the CIA itself notes that:

> While problematic personality features are essential, they are not sufficient to provoke espionage. The majority of people who have some, or even many, of the personality features described above will never engage in criminal conduct.

This quote informs us that the optimum rate of leaks is not "zero" because you'd be throwing out a lot of babies with the bathwater.

Basic overview: https://theconversation.com/how-ordinary-people-are-convince...

More details on personality dysfunctions which lead to leaks: https://www.cia.gov/static/30b273c621d0896f13104ff48840b68f/...

> In his memoir Carney quotes himself as asking the OSI officers arresting him “What took you so long?” (Against All Enemies, 592); he also claims to have made several attempts during the arrest to assert rights as a German citizen but was told to shut up. FBI Special Agent Robert Hanssen also contemptuously asked the FBI colleagues arresting him, “What took you so long?” Both Hanssen and Carney demonstrated the reflexive grandiosity described in the personality section of this article in this sarcastic comment. When he was arrested, Ames said, “You’re making a big mistake! You must have the wrong man!” demonstrating the automatic cunning and slipperiness characteristic of psychopaths.


I think they want to feel important. Most people aren’t rational, the pay grade doesn’t change the emotional roller coaster that much because people feel bad for themselves when look up the ladder.

A 500K salary and working at a prestigious company will impress a lot of people but those in that position will be exposed to the existence of much greater wealth and much more accomplished people. This will make them feel like unremarkable failure.

In this particular case though, it appears than someone was just boosting to their sibling.


> If you don't believe in secrecy or believe in revealing info for what ever reason, just dont join the company, it's very simple.

That is absurd. If you don't believe in inflicting pain, maiming, and killing animals for cosmetics research, don't do anything about it like infiltrate and leak, rather just don't work for one of those companies?

(that's an example, I am neither in favor of nor opposed to animal research, I'm willing to go along with informed majority rule. But I understand why people protest it.)


If the post is truthful then it implies that he found out things she knew and then leaked them without her knowledge




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