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But we're not talking about just any odd collection of investors. As I understand it, Y Combinator specifically relates to Internet-centric business models.

SOPA seems wholly destructive to this sector of the economy.



Nevertheless, it is conceivable that a company could support SOPA while making good investments in the tech industry. Maybe they don't think SOPA will pass, and they want future business dealings with the RIAA.

But that's not really the point, which is that whether or not they're good investors, they support something harmful. We're not boycotting them because we think they're bad investors. (If we thought they were bad investors, why did we do business with them in the first place?) We're doing it because they are allied with our enemies and we want to hurt them for that.


Nevertheless, it is conceivable that a company could support SOPA while making good investments in the tech industry.

Yes, it's conceivable.

We're not boycotting them because we think they're bad investors.

That would be reason enough for me.

If we thought they were bad investors, why did we do business with them in the first place?

Perhaps you weren't aware of this aspect of their decision-making process.

We're doing it because they are allied with our enemies and we want to hurt them for that.

Meh. I think a much stronger position is:

We depend on a free Internet and a stable DNS and are just not going to do business with those who try to jack around with it. - and - If you don't "get" why net censorship and ISP domain blocking in particular are spectacularly dumb ideas then you probably aren't in that top tier of cluefulness that we're wanting to recruit.

These are two independent positions that compliment each other well I think.


I think it depends on what you mean by "good investor".

If you invest in tobacco, land mine manufacturers, and semi-competent toxic waste disposal facilities, you might make a mint. That would make you a good investor in the sense of profitable.

However, no entrepreneur in his right mind would take money from people like that, because they wouldn't be good investors in the sense of being supportive of a long-term effort to build a sustainable business in a healthy ecosystem.

So I'm with PG on this one. Anybody internet entrepreneur should be very suspicious about money from a SOPA supporter: partner, investor, or acquirerer.


Minor tangent here that's not relevant to your main point - what exactly is wrong with trying to dispose of toxic waste in a "semi-competent" manner? Lead, mercury, asbestos, and all those other freaky things have got to go somewhere. Shouldn't you be more pissed off at people generating that waste?


Competent waste disposal is great. Totally incompetent waste disposal is bad, but those jerks tend to get caught quickly. The semi-competent ones are able to appear adequate for long enough that they can create giant messes. They can also undercut the people doing it right, creating a race to the bottom.

And no, I'm not necessarily pissed off at the people generating the waste. Heck, water's dangerous unless properly handled. As long as people using toxic substances pay the full lifecycle cost there's no negative externality so that's jake by me.


I think we should keep them where they belong; in children's toys imported from China.


Semi-competent disposal results in semi-containment of toxic waste. Competent disposal results in full containment of toxic waste.


I think semi-competent there was probably supposed to mean "less competent than average", not "more competent than average".


Well for me at least the cask is half-full, not half-empty.

That's just the kind of guy I am.


Even a broken clock is right twice a day.




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