Labor solidarity is an extremely common, useful, and productive way to think about boss vs worker concerns.

It's why we don't cross picket lines, why we unionize and support other unions, etc.

Quickest route to downvotes and comment flagging I've ever experienced here is this comment. It's bizarre and eye-opening.

The whole musk shebang has been an eye opener for me. I usually consider HN to be top of the line as far as internet forums go, but the amount of mental gymnastics I'm seeing these past days... Unbelievable.

HN definitely has a range of ideological bents, and in my experience you'll run into a huge variety of ideologies. But among them all, pro-worker anti-capitalist is pretty rare.

(Or even pro worker over pro management.)

Yeah I was going to say. I don’t get many upvotes for my pro-labor and anti-capitalist posts. Which end up being most of my comments these days. Though I’m not usually as upfront.

Interesting - worker solidarity to you is equal to "tribalism" and violence? So unions are actually violent tribal groups in your mind?

The rightful way to handle a bad deal is to peaceably walk away saying “I’m better off elsewhere.”

It's actually a pretty clear labour vs capital conflict. Elons just a regular PE style investor who's hoping to gut the company and sell it off without actually changing anything

This is quite literally a tribal conflict. It's Musk vs. the employees; that's why he bought the company! It's not like he made it a secret.