I usually assume that I can't take sales people at face value. If it's a badge of honour, they're incentivised to say that they don't work hard even if they are in fact actually working hard (this includes pretending to enjoy golf).
Having said that, 30 people is a lot of people, so I'm inclined to accept your assessment at face value.
Having said that, 30 people is a lot of people, so I'm inclined to accept your assessment at face value.