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Discrimination is a fuzzy word.. Is-it discrimination to forbid trans-women to participate in the same sports category as bio-women?


A blanket ban would be I think. Having a blanket ban demonstrates that you are judging transgender people on their transgender status alone, rather than making an evidence-based assessment of whether a particular athlete has an unfair advantage.

The International Olympic Committee, for example, has a framework for precisely this (you can read it here, it's pretty easy going: https://stillmed.olympics.com/media/Documents/News/2021/11/I... ) and I think it demonstrates really well that they've put a good amount of thought into being fair.

I think you'd have a hard time saying that the IOC framework is discrimination.


> Having a blanket ban demonstrates that you are judging transgender people on their transgender status alone,

No, by their sex - just like everyone else.


> A blanket ban would be I think.

There is a blanket ban on men participating in women’s sports - is that discrimination ?


> Discrimination is a fuzzy word..

No, it's not.

> Is-it discrimination to forbid trans-women to participate in the same sports category as bio-women?

It is absolutely discrimination to discriminate between cisgender and transgender competitors.

Whether it is acceptable discrimination is a value question, whether it is legal or permissible discrimination depends on the relevant law and rule framework, but it is unmistakably discrimination.


So, by this use of this word, it is discrimination to prevent (non trans) male athletes from competing in female sports.


Yes, absolutely. Any time you distinguish treatment between different categories it is discrimination. That's what the word means.


That is one usage of the word. But we should not pretend that the word has only one use.

Chuck "discriminate" into Google and you'll get two definitions:

> 1. recognize a distinction; differentiate.

> 2. make an unjust or prejudicial distinction in the treatment of different categories of people.

I was referring to the latter use.


Yeah, agreed. People conflating these two meanings of the word just confuse the discussion.


Yes. That's an example of discrimination that society has mostly concluded to be constructive.




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