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"History is written by the victors". When crimes are committed against humanity, it's the elite that get to decide which one of the crimes are deemed worth punishing


Proofs: Carpet bombing of cities and civil infrastructure, unlimited u-boat / submarine warfare.


Ha, US military has immunity in every country they go to.

If they kill somebody in a car accident (which happened more than once, even in Europe) they will not go to trail but be sent home and "judged" there.

What is power without hypocrisy...


That’s a bit hyperbolic. How these issues are handled vary by each country and are agreed upon by the host country. Here is a link on the topic.

https://www.findlaw.com/military/criminal-law/foreign-crimin...


Sure, "agreed upon". Since it's very beneficial for a country to grant immunity to a large corpus of foreigners with guns.


Only the losing parties get prosecuted.


That's sort of an unhelpful truism. By definition, the losing parties don't have control of a judicial system within which a trial of the winning parties could take place.

If what you mean is "winning parties don't prosecute their own side", then I would also disagree with that, since some countries do believe that the rules they are ostensibly fighting for do apply to themselves:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/29/afghan...


I wouldn't exactly call US the winner of the Vietnam or Iraq wars


would you consider Vietnam to be in a position to write and have their own side of it become history?


And only once the "middle management" died of old age a decade ago.


Or bombing two cities without a military purpose with nuclear bombs.


There is a fundamental difference between being incompetent at waging war and organized, systematic action to erase an entire group of people simply because of their genes.

If you really want to compare Nazi to US you would have to imagine US using their industry and war machine to try and kill every single Afghani or Muslim in the world. See how ridiculous this sounds? That is because these two acts are not really comparable in any meaningful way.

My grandparents lived through the war in Poland and I spent my childhood listening to their stories.


The acts of the US do not need to be as bad as the Nazis to still be ruled as murder. Killing thousands of civilians is still terrible even though killing millions is worse.


The racism was just marketing. The purpose of that marketing was to create an enemy. The first ingredient in any war.

The purpose of the war was to acquire wealth for its investors. Just like any war.


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War is a messy business. There is no way to wage war without killing innocent people. The difference between the Nazi's an the Americans or the Israelis is the former did it on purpose while the latter take every reasonable precaution to avoid killing the wrong people.

The other side, the Palestinians or the Taliban actively target innocent people. Yet I don't hear you complaining about that - maybe you're not impartial here.


“The Palestinians” are not even a unified polity:

"""officially governed by the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and claiming the West Bank and Gaza Strip with Jerusalem as the designated capital; in practice, however, only partial administrative control is held over the 167 "islands" in the West Bank, and Gaza is ruled by a rival government (Hamas). The entirety of territory claimed by the State of Palestine has been occupied since 1948, first by Egypt (Gaza Strip) and Jordan (West Bank) and then by Israel after the Six-Day War in 1967.""" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine

I don’t know how much I don’t know about the conflict; about who (if anyone) is using Palestine as a proxy to attack Israel without the risk of direct retaliation; about the proportionality or otherwise of IDF responses; about the legality or otherwise under international law of any given village or town in Palestinian territory created and occupied by what are called “Israeli settlers” in some newspapers, nor even do I know if those settlers are or are not officially endorsed by the government of Israel. Everything I learn about this, at every level of detail, has been a surprise to me, literally everything, starting with “antisemitism wasn’t eliminated with the death of Hitler”.

Yet: treating “the Palestinians” as a unified bloc like “the Taliban” or “the USA” seems unhelpful in this case.


There's a limit to how detailed in going to be in a comment, but when I said Palestinians here I was referring to the terrorist organization of Hamas that runs the government in Gaza. Despite how it seems to have rubbed some people the wrong way, I stand by my comment. You can tell the "good guys" by the way they try to avoid hurting innocent people. There is no side without fault in a conflict, and war is indeed a messy business.


You don’t just need lots of power to do stuff like that - you need sovereignty of some sort.

For instance, the globally-speaking weak Palestine leadership fires rocket barrages willy-nilly at Israeli civilians and uses their own civilians as a human shield all the time and I’ve yet to see them go to prison.




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