> At least Tesla has demonstrated that their data collection is for training their full self-driving capability. That represents tremendous end-user value, in my opinion.
Not to me. That data collection is the #1 reason why I would never consider buying a Tesla (and, increasingly, other new cars as well.)
There’s a button in the UI to switch off AutoPilot data collection with no loss of functionality. When you first get the car and enroll I believe they prompt you then as well. (Opt-in!) [1]
You can also email Tesla and tell them you want to go dark in which case they shutdown the LTE connection entirely. Then you have to go get firmware updates at the dealer and of course online traffic aware maps, and streaming radio won’t work.
If you don’t believe them when they tell you it’s shut off, and you don’t believe the UI when it tells you it’s disconnected, then I suppose you can just unplug the antenna?
If, for some reason, I have to own a car that is capable of sending data wirelessly, this is exactly what I would do.
I don't see that needing to happen, though. I'm old enough that I can reasonably expect that older used cars will be available to me for the rest of my life. I don't see myself buying a new car at any point, due to these issues.
I don’t know how old you are, but I suspect ICE vehicles will be banned or heavily taxed/tolled in an increasing number of locations over the next 20 years.
I’d think disabling the wireless is a minor inconvenience to experience the joy of an EV.
I have no special desire for an EV specifically (and yes, I have used them!) I don't have any problems with them, they're just no more or less attractive to me for being electric. I very much prefer not to own a car at all when I'm in a position where I can get away without one.
But as I said, if I had to own a modern car, I'd disable the antenna. But it's a whole lot easier to just buy a car that doesn't have that nonsense in the first place if that's possible.
I agree with you but I fear we are in the minority, because Average Joe wants fast with shiny wheels, and is completely ignorant or complacent about some esoteric idea of a right to privacy.
Not to me. That data collection is the #1 reason why I would never consider buying a Tesla (and, increasingly, other new cars as well.)