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New catalyst paves way for carbon neutral fuel (phys.org)
41 points by dnetesn on June 21, 2017 | hide | past | favorite | 5 comments


Contrary to the article's assertions, the main sticking point is not a low-cost catalyst to convert CO2 + H2 to CH4.

The main sticking point is the fact that CH4 can come from myriad other sources far far less expensively (some of them also carbon neutral, like landfill gas), and by the time you've renewably generated H2, I'd seriously hope you have something better to do with it than store it for later combustion (unlike H2, there's not many other uses for CH4).

Roundtrip efficiency from electricity to H2 to CH4 to heat, be it physical or economic, is pathetic compared to electricity to battery to heat.

Now if you've managed to make some heavier hydrocarbons, the US Navy might be interested in talking to you.


>Now if you've managed to make some heavier hydrocarbons, the US Navy might be interested in talking to you.

Every army, navy and airforce globally should be extremely interested in talking to you. Their most strategic resource could turn into commodity. Stuff like widespread algaic fuel production could significantly lessen geopolitical pressures globally. This should be in top three priorities of any pacifist institution.


There certainly are some niche use cases for less efficient methane:

"Therefore, when we looked at the overall system optimization, it was clear that methane was the clear winner. "

Elon Musk's 'Making Humans a Multi-Planetary Species', https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14573837


> Now if you've managed to make some heavier hydrocarbons, the US Navy might be interested in talking to you.

heavier hydrocarbons can be easily produced from methane through oxidative coupling, but the more interesting path is the steam reforming


easily??!! i need a reference for that. the reason we blast it way the @#$@#4 up the energy mountain of syn gas via steam reforming is because methane is a stubbornly happy little camper...




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