I'd love to know how (precisely) closing visa access to nations that don't send terrorists to the US (Iran) but not to that those that do, but which happen to make scads of $$ for Trump's business pals (Saudi Arabia), makes America safer than your nation. Try suggesting this policy (visas up the wazoo for oil-rich Wahhabis) to your elected reps. It's a useful test: if they go for it, you know they're either thick or on the take.
This is a straightforward business deal. Saudi Arabia is a major arms client. Iraq is just a poor nation that the US smashed and its citizens are to be thrown as red meat to 'patriots'. Iran is irrelevant to the issue, but 'patriots' don't distinguish between varieties of dusky foreigner.
Which makes no sense - the US and Iran don't have relations at all, why would they suddenly start handing over information on their visa applicants? This hurts the US more than helps, by a long, long shot.
People from a different culture coming to where I live without invitation, not adjusting to local norms, trying to bring their own norms with them and force those on local population, doing horrible crimes and, most often, escaping without punishment or after a "slap on a wrist" to return later for more.
Like, "severing child's head and walking around downtown with it, blood dripping, while screaming ISIS claims" horrible.
I would really like to stop that, bonus points for sending as much of them home as humanely possible, and then holding people who let this happen in the first place direly accountable.
Admission to a country was never a professor's decision.
I can't go to a country abroad and study because a professor has decided that I would be a good fit. At most, we can submit an application. Then, the decision is up to immigration officials.
We heard and discounted the opinions of those who though CERN would create a blackhole, or summon Cthulhu, why do your prejudices deserve a referendum?
I don't expect you to switch to my side opinion-wise, just to outvote you.
You, however, could give it a shot, but didn't try.
I think you don't understand how not merely democracy, not merely human society, but the whole game theory works.
Yes you're going to eventually hold a referendum about CERN if it will continously raise worries, and no, you don't get to "discount" anything.
You can try to defer this vote-casting, but, like Trump demonstrated, reality is a mean bitch and you'll end up paying for disregarding other people's opinions.
You know you can't come up with any actual threats from immigrants. Except maybe that one would win away your girlfriend who's sick of your shit.
So no, I can't switch to your side because you literally don't have one. A side would be defined as people who think/believe as you do and nobody from the alt-right agrees. You all hate different people for different reasons. Watching your politics is hilarious because you're all each other's normal greatest enemies - religious conservatives with racists with UFO cultists, etc. You're only united by your common hatred of successful happy people.
You think the Trumps of the world are your savior and instead they're the greatest predator of fools like you. The religious right aren't going to get an effective block of abortion, because Trump doesn't care. The bigots aren't going to actually get racial purity because the banning immigration thing is just about appearing tough. Business-first people aren't going to get fiscal policy because Trump's an idiot whose sole trick is reneging on contracts. You won't even have a military in a few years because it has to be paid for. Good luck with your borders then, but it'll be Russia calling.
The rich and successful can leave, you're going to be mired in whatever nonsense you vote for and quickly at each other's throats over it. Any rich and successful jews left Germany long before it fell, but millions of "good germans" were killed in what should have been so easy for an actual master race. <Cough> losers.
> I think you don't understand how not merely democracy, not merely human society, but the whole game theory works.
And yet you just declared your intent to be non-democratic. To deny some people rights that your ancestors enjoyed. That's why we aren't going to ask - we don't intend to sink to your illegal/unconstitutional depths.
> Yes you're going to eventually hold a referendum about CERN if it will continously raise worries
Worries among reasonable people, sure. But not intentional ignorance. And how would you even know if we turned it off. It's a complex machine and you're race-baiting idiots. The results are published in the type of books without pictures.
> you don't get to "discount" anything.
We were trying not to. Diversity even included those such as yourself and people cared to try to understand what made you tick despite it being irrational and hateful.
We don't have to discount you though, you try getting a hundred people from your side to work together on something other than tearing things apart. I dare you. You couldn't produce anything worth counting. You're breakers, not makers. Takers, not workers.
The only reason you have a voice is that things larger than you stopped to ask your opinion. It was odious and we won't make that mistake again.
