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Me too. How about Apple not fucks up in the first place? How about people put out software that works and not this MVP bullshit that passes for a finished product? How about respecting the user by default?


Starting from a position of "Don't make mistakes" from a series of fallible entities (Computers, People) seems like a position doomed to failure.


Make less mistakes? Test more? Don't move so fast?

And you know what? I will expect perfection. Because if someone has the gall to destroy people's stuff they better execute to fucking perfection


Reached back for the bottle, rubbed against the lamp / Genie came out smiling like some Eastern tramp.

"OK, iTunes is now written to DoD/NASA/JPL coding standards. It has zero bugs. That will be $69,105,000.00 per user, please.

Oh, and we expect to support 16-bit audio by 2024. You're good with 8 for now, right?"


Except even NASA projects written to those standards had and have bugs still.

Apply Mission Critical/Life or Death practices to software can reduce the amount of bugs, but it doesn't take much searching to find medical software and other space software that has shipped with bugs, some with dire consequences.

I don't think the consumer software industry is prepared to take on those costs to still end up with bugs anyway.


So take my comments to the other extreme? Why can nobody see any middle ground??

The pushback experienced for wanting quality, well-written, doesn't-need-to-be-patched code is mystifying


I think thats mostly an illusion, and the costs for that "last mile" of quality is huge.

Think of it this way, if the software works for 99.9% of people, that's still 800k people that can experience undesired behavior. You hear "everyone has this problem!" but in aggregate, its not. Yet 800k is still a lot of people! Yet its 0.1% of iOS devices sold!

In short, what you are asking for is easy to say with words, but in reality its pretty hard to do, even if you have "more money than a nation" or whatever comparison people are using.


You're not wrong, definitely. It's just that criticizing iTunes feels like picking on the mentally-challenged. As rarepostinlurkr points out, even the "best of best" practices can't really guarantee bug-free software. And Apple is very far down indeed on any list of respected software development institutions.

The only rational approach to iTunes is to assume it will either delete your music or otherwise render it unindexable, and prepare accordingly.




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