It works only in the AWS us-east cloud, what about Eu?

This. So many clients refuse to host their data in the US because of the gov't .

Curious - are AWS's EU clusters subject to EU laws, or US ones? I would've thought that as a US corporation, they'd be subject to both. If the US government has a warrant to snoop on Amazon's customers, it doesn't seem like Amazon has much choice (as a US corporation) but to comply.

Currently the US-of-A believes that US laws _always_ apply, no matter where. However that doesn't jive well with EU privacy laws. For example the easiest way to comply with the German privacy laws ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesdatenschutzgesetz ) is to host inside of Germany itself (See also: AWS eu-central-1).

Microsoft has been busily fighting this notion ( http://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2015/04/09/our-lega... ) for a while now. Basically all the tech companies are waiting to find out what happens ( http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/us/politics/apple-and-othe... ) because it means the difference between "US Law applies everywhere" and "US companies can comply with foreign data protection laws". Unfortunately these two things are mutually exclusive.

Unclear, but our EU customer was satisfied by using the EU servers.

Priceless lessons from the real world for the people who want to build a product. Thank you.

I am very exited for webrtc in Firefox stable.

What a cool idea! I'm very exited. Good luck

I don't understand one thing. Say there is 10 people in the session. Do I get all other 9 people's streams as only one pear? Anyway it's seems very interesting.

I don't like the idea of rendering client code in the server.

Don't think of it as client or server code. Think of it as presentation code. And it happens to run on both the server and browser.

Though, don't write your business code in javascript. Hell to maintain.

If you can do it without code duplication, why not just consider it a kind of caching? That's how it seems to be used here: as an optimization.

If your definition of the JSON to HTML transformation is declarative, it makes sense to allow the server to do it for the data that's available to it.

The web has a semi-long history of "dumb clients," and that means the server has to be able to do the rendering. There are some pretty good reasons for this, and projects like Rendr try to make it as easy as possible. Seems good to me!

Google started to understand javascript, didn't it?

I was expecting someone saying lisp instead of prolog.

Lisp and prolog are old languages that have had their day and largely been marginalized by more practical ones. Prolog was intended for AI and NLP but overtime the rigid grammar approaches have been obsoleted by statistical ones with far greater success. These days AI and NLP are more commonly found in java or python. Watson, for example, is written in java. Lisp is great for things like genetic algorithms because there's no distinction between code and data, it's a homoiconic language.

Do you know which one is?

Pascal maybe, or Algol

Probably Fortran.

Google login didn't work for me. The page says that I've logged but nothing happens. No Turkish? Good luck

Wonderful suggestion the Turkish one. As soon as the wave of HN fade we are going to deploy the fixes and add the new language.

For the Google login, the login process has still some problems here and there. After the login we don't have, yet, a page explaining what to expect next. That why nothing happens.

We are already working on that, next deploy we will hopefully be ok.