Because we aren't in Germany in the 1930s, the context is different, and the "other" different.
Lots of anti-semites also like what Israel is doing, because they hate arabs even more, and of course, a lot of them are fundamentalist christians that believe the biblical Israelites have to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem before Jesus can return.
After Israel implemented apartheid, they became an example for ethnonationalist supremacist groups. You know, like what the nazis were. Israel was one of the last countries to support apartheid South Africa (led by nazis), it's currently conducting a genocide against Palestinians, is aggressively expanding into nearby countries, and is at constant war.
Elon Musk also very clearly heiled. Just look up a video. He slaps his chest and flings his arm out in a textbook nazi salute. Then he turns around and heils the US flag. Elon Musk's grandfather was a Canadian nazi (card-carrying member!) who moved to South Africa in order to support apartheid. His mother was, similarly a supporter of apartheid and a staunch racist. He has been brought up in this ideology.
Elon is a nazi and so is Netanyahu.
To be clear, when I say nazi, I do not mean "card-carrying member of the nazi party" (except Musk's grandpa), I mean someone who thinks there is an in group that is superior to others, who should have more power, more rights, and should be allowed to destroy the other. It does not matter who the other is, the can be jewish (1930s nazis), palestinian (zionists), south amreican or somali (MAGA), or something else.
You're saying some people want a particular end, and that justifies certain illegal, violent, and discriminatory means.
I'd say those people support authoritarian politics at the least. Now add in the context of the end in question (less immigration of racialized people) and the means in question (indiscriminately imprisoning minorities), that in itself is well in line with fascism.
I think we can all agree that racism is a bad thing but staunchly declaring "anti-racism" as your priority seems to veer into the territory of consistently finding racism where there is none. It sounds suspiciously like historic witch hunting (and I hate that this term has been recently overused practically to the point of ruination).
How does it seem to do so? Please give me examples.
Racism is a societal ill, so it will express itself through many channels in society, and it will be embedded in the systems that we institute (just like other biases and attitudes do). Therefore identifying racism even when it isn't explicit or flagrant is pretty common and reasonable thing to do.
I don't think I've ever run into anti-racists who are trying to invent issues, or discover racism where there is none.
Supposed? He slapped his chest, and flung his arm hard into a heil. And then he turned around and heiled the flag.
He grew up in apartheid South Africa, where his grandparents moved because they wanted to support apartheid. His grandparents were nazis; as in Errol Musk has stated they were in the "German [Nazi] Party but in Canada", and supported Hitler in the 1940s. Elon would have picked up on these influences, and Elon himself has supported AFD, the current german nazi party. By all accounts, it's not out of character for Elon to heil. I mean, if we for some reason are discounting the obvious visual evidence that he did, in fact, heil.
Pleas explain to me how that wasn't a nazi salute.
The ADL says it was an awkward gesture, not a nazi salute. Snopes says his grandparents weren't nazis. They also say there's no proof his family moved to south africa because they supported apartheid. And even if his grandparents were nazis, it wouldn't make him a nazi. I'm sure many Germans have nazi grandparents, but that doesn't make them nazis.
>Elon himself has supported AFD, the current german nazi part
No, the current nazi party is Die Heimat (or whatever they call themselves). AFD just wants common sense immigration reform.
It's a really dark thing to me that we all watched him do it and people like yourself will just deny it.
Also the absolute height of stupidity to conclude he didn't do it despite quite literally having to take a tour of Auschwitz because he wasn't stopping the Nazis on his site.
Add to that the dozens of times we've learned about US Republicans praising Hitler and Elon quite literally being the biggest donor.
I would question the framing that code is cheap now. That's not really meaningful. What is the cost most associated with software? Maintenance.
Considering that, I would say a much more accurate statement is that sub-prime technical debt is now easy to take on.
I'm surprised at the low quality of the grifting comments in this thread. I have a feeling that the vibe coding enjoyers used to at least make defensible statements. Now it's just pure hype. Seems like we're in the SBF being lauded for FTX part of the bubble.
Vibe-coded projects can't keep up with the scale of technical debt accretion. See the proliferation of OpenClaw clones - instead of fixing it we're iterating on rewriting it from scratch without fixing the core issues. (Give it a year and the "minimal" Claw-clones will also collapse under technical debt, because they're also vibe-coded, with all that implies.)
The deliberate destruction of a group of people and its culture (completely or partially).
This fits the general description of what Israel has been up to in Palestine since 1948, but especially during the past few years.
Indiscriminate killing of civilians. Planned starvation. Poisoning wells. Denying Palestinians the right to return to their homeland. Forbidding the use of Palestinian cultural symbols. Denying Palestinians the right to fish/conduct business. Keeping them under curfew and surveilling their every move, making them as miserable as possible. Mass imprisonment. Denying Palestinians home-ownership.
Systematically destroying Palestinians and any chance for them to thrive/ found a state/ have human rights.
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You fed my comment to an AI and based your response on what it said. You said some of the claims were "incorrect".
Let's leave aside how ridiculous it is to fact-check with an LLM. if you go back and read what the AI actually generated, however, you will see that every claim has factual basis, the LLM just marked some as "narrow factual basis", for no particular reason. If it has been documented, it is fact, the LLM is just confused.
Every one of these, when done systematically (and they are) is a component of genocide. About half of them would be enough to constitute genocide on their own.
Displacing more than half of a population (as Israel has done TWICE in history) is definitely genocide.
If you are truly interested in educating yourself, you can start by reading the following wikipedia page (even just the intro):
Genocide definition is: the deliberate, systematic destruction—in whole or in part—of a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group
Israel most probably did war crimes (white phosphorus usage seems to be confirmed, while IDF says they have not used it), but I don't think that Israeli has intention to destroy Palestinians. The have intention to destroy Hamas or Hezbollah.
2) Israel has had genocidal plans for Palestinians since before Hamas existed (see the Nakba). In fact, Likud brought Hamas to power, because they saw them as a more fitting opponent than other groups (who were less militant).
3) Israeli politicians (not just current ones) have candidly stated they wish to destroy Palestine, Palestinians, and any chance for them to live in theur homeland
For gods sake, educate yourself. One easy thing to look up is a timeseries of deaths/year of Israelis due to Palestinian violence vs. deaths of Palestinians due to Israeli violence. That should do enough to dispel you of the idea that Palestinians are the terrorists in this case
Only if those similarities are indicating more than 'generic internet hacker' for both of them. You only need 23 bits to identify a person but those are 23 uncorrelated bits, and all the 'similarities' presented here are extremely strongly correlated with themselves.
Yeah, but as Wordle fans know, some clues yield more bits than others. The search space is not balanced.
The search space of hackers is a small subtree of all humans. So it's like a smaller tree of groups in Wordle that contains the letter "H".
However, in reality there is no binary "hacker" bit, so maybe we're back to the brute force 33-bit space. And then, you don't know Satoshi's unique signature, and it's worse if Satoshi is a group.
Come to think of it, do all hacker news posters even share a hacker bit?
I still rely on information-theoretic proofs at work, they just don't involve messy humans.
Similarities in style and word were common enough in small circles such as the cyphyrpunks that spawned those discussions.
Then there's not altogether unlikely chance that Satoshi is a nodding homage to Nicolas Bourbaki, each contributor holding part of a multiparty voting key.
The interests and writing style differentiate Mr. (Dr.?) Back from the general public, sure. But from what I’m reading, they don’t do a great job of distinguishing between 90s hackers.
“Get this, his PhD thesis dealt with a computer language called C++, just like Bitcoin papers used” seems both confused and impossibly lazy to me.
> “Scrap patents and copyright,” Mr. Back wrote in September 1997.
> Satoshi did a similar thing. He released the Bitcoin software under M.I.T.’s open-source license
Really?
Like saying “get this, his college-aged musical interests included the Urban American musical style known as ‘Hip Hop’; therefore Tupac didn’t really die and this is him.” Heavy on insinuation, light on seriousness. Strong “…you’re not from around here, are you?” vibes.
What does this kind of journalism hope to accomplish, anyway? Beyond bothering middle-aged nerds for gossip? And providing a frame for the author’s cute little sleuth jape?
“Good reason to look closer” assumes there’s good reason to pick through ancient rubble in the first place.
All 12,000 words. Kept expecting it to take a turn toward something beyond pre-judgment and insinuation. Instead it unfolded as a cautionary tale, of the power of a premature conclusion to close an investigator’s mind to reasonable alternative possibilities. About escalating commitment to an early hunch, even as it leads you down an investigative dead end.
For example it sure seems like his mountain of circumstantial evidence fits better with the theory that “Satoshi” could be a pen name for a small group of people—maybe even the small group whose history he traces and whose styles he has trouble teasing apart—rather than one “suspect” (as he calls it). But we don’t even really weigh that possibility seriously.
So, like—why are we coming at this one guy by name and spooky hacker photo in the New York Times, with the suggestion that he has $110 billion under his mattress? All these speculations and arguments have been done over and over—what does this reporting add that’s worth 12,000 words?
The colorful journey down a dead end, fine—but leave it at “My Quest,” don’t do the weasel subhed “the trail of clues […] led to Adam Back” to insinuate that it proved what it set out to prove. Or even added anything significant to the well-trodden record.
>For example it sure seems like his mountain of circumstantial evidence fits better with the theory that “Satoshi” could be a pen name for a small group of people—maybe even the small group whose history he traces and whose styles he has trouble teasing apart—rather than one “suspect” (as he calls it). But we don’t even really weigh that possibility seriously.
Does it? I didn't come to that conclusion. Do share!
>So, like—why are we coming at this one guy by name and spooky hacker photo in the New York Times, with the suggestion that he has $110 billion under his mattress? All these speculations and arguments have been done over and over—what does this reporting add that’s worth 12,000 words?
Well, they identified this guy and the reporting here is better than the others I've seen in the past. This article obviously has nothing to do with what past writers wrote, so I don't really get the point of pretending like it all comes from one place.
>The colorful journey down a dead end, fine—but leave it at “My Quest,” don’t do the weasel subhed “the trail of clues […] led to Adam Back” to insinuate that it proved what it set out to prove. Or even added anything significant to the well-trodden record.
Lots of anti-semites also like what Israel is doing, because they hate arabs even more, and of course, a lot of them are fundamentalist christians that believe the biblical Israelites have to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem before Jesus can return.
After Israel implemented apartheid, they became an example for ethnonationalist supremacist groups. You know, like what the nazis were. Israel was one of the last countries to support apartheid South Africa (led by nazis), it's currently conducting a genocide against Palestinians, is aggressively expanding into nearby countries, and is at constant war.
Elon Musk also very clearly heiled. Just look up a video. He slaps his chest and flings his arm out in a textbook nazi salute. Then he turns around and heils the US flag. Elon Musk's grandfather was a Canadian nazi (card-carrying member!) who moved to South Africa in order to support apartheid. His mother was, similarly a supporter of apartheid and a staunch racist. He has been brought up in this ideology.
Elon is a nazi and so is Netanyahu.
To be clear, when I say nazi, I do not mean "card-carrying member of the nazi party" (except Musk's grandpa), I mean someone who thinks there is an in group that is superior to others, who should have more power, more rights, and should be allowed to destroy the other. It does not matter who the other is, the can be jewish (1930s nazis), palestinian (zionists), south amreican or somali (MAGA), or something else.
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