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This accurately describes many commenters in this thread and threads like it. Based on OP's description the US government is a terrorist organization.


These are all good questions. I'm sure some agent of the government will respond very conclusively shortly.


I think they'd rather get their JTRIG shills to downvote me than to risk the public gaining a sense of clarity in how they operate.


> If you think you can go around doing whatever you want with computers

But the the government is entitled to do whatever it wants with computers why?

> If I was added to the watchlist just for purchasing those substances, then -that- would be much more ridiculous.

Maybe that's already the case. We don't even know how many lists of this nature exist let alone why people are put on them.


How did they get your account information?


I really don't know. The only thing I know is that my email account connected to my Netflix was not compromised. There was a big list (1000+ accounts) that was for sale - I have this list in my possession and have passed it on to Netflix. Waiting for them to notify customers but yet to receive an email (notified Netflix 5 hours ago).


I wonder if my account is in that list. I got my account taken over by a hacker close to a year ago. I had to call and get it reset. The only way I knew for sure it was hacked was because the devices they listed contained 1 that I did not own.

I have been a 'victim' a few times ever since the LinkedIn and Adobe brecaches awhile ago. It even happened as early as 2 weeks back. It's becuause I'm a fool and use the same password multiple times. Now, I don't going forward.


Email me - sam.granger@gmail.com and I will check for you.


Might be a better idea suggesting users search for their email address, rather than contacting you personally.. I'm able to find the site with yours..

The information has been indexed as of 5 days ago. Credited to "@LulZSecSecurity"


Netflix may be contacting the local police and letting them know about you, this list of information stolen from their systems that you sent them, and how you told them it was for sale. You may hear from the police before you hear from Netflix.


Netflix sent me an email after reading this thread. I've been 100% transparent to them and have done nothing illegal.


That's good. Congratulations.


Wait, did you buy the list?


No, I didn't buy it.


Yeah but if you disagree with something the government is doing, why would it be any better if you're making it easier?

This is exactly what scientists who commit war-crimes would say. I am not accusing you of anything like that but that's the logical extreme.


That's why I said "aspects of". If I fully disagreed with a project and thought it was evil, I wouldn't work on it.

However, that's not normally the case. There may be aspects I disagree with, and if you get to do research, you can often show problems and affect the direction of the project. But after all, I could be wrong. I've done enough research to know that :)


Got any stock tips?

EDIT: Thanks for the reminder that nothing mildly humorous is tolerated on HN.


The issue was that it wasent a funny enough joke for it to even be clear that it was a joke.


His tip was "invest in the brands you like."


I would not actually suggest this as a strategy, since you almost certainly won't beat the market. Again, dumb luck. 75% of my investments are in index funds. If you're investing solely for returns, they should be substantially 100% of your equity allocation. (My last 25% is my concession to a deep-seated desire to play WoW with real money.)


This a hundred times. Mr. Money Mustache - the patio11 of the finance blogosphere - has a great overview on why index funds are the best long term strategy: http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011/05/18/how-to-make-money-...


As an alternative, "invest in the CEOs you like". One of my fathers better investments was in Rolls Royce, which was based on a chance encounter with the then CEO on a bridge in London watching rowing.


That thing looks cool. One small nitpick, it's easier to open a banana from the seed end as opposed to the stem. Source: primates.


I don't think they fit into the startup category any longer. They took a $100 million round of financing and have 200+ employees.

They do seem to have kept their heads on straight through it all.


Yeah the government's goal is totally a "free and open Internet."

Except that part of the government dedicated to vacuuming up and storing and analyzing every signal from every network-enabled device on the planet.


That has nothing to do with whether or not it's a utility. They're clearly already capable of doing so.


Explain how the two ideas aren't related.


Classifying the Internet as a utility doesn't change the various Three Letter Agencies' ability nor motiviations to surveil traffic.


You are restating exactly what you already said. Maybe you didn't understand.

Taxation implies increased tracking and auditing of the good being taxed, in this context surveillance could be justifiable.

Perhaps you're unable to imagine these consequences, but your claim that they have nothing to do with one another is just ignorant.


Our Internet traffic is already heavily surveilled without this entirely hypothetical Internet tax you're proposing.

The phone system is a utility, and it's certainly not the fact that it's taxable that makes the TLAs interested in wiretapping it.


Sorry, I did not mean to imply that taxation is necessary for surveillance.

What I'm proposing is that regulation is one way of legitimizing the role of surveillance. The government has a reason to be involved by virtue of the fact that it's made regulations.

I did a bad job in conveying that idea above. It's certainly possible my analysis is utterly incorrect as well.


that's not how this works. you're the one that made the original unsubstantiated claim. the burden is now on you to substantiate your original claim.

explain the mechanism by which classifying internet service as a utility enhances the ability of the NSA to record that data.


Public safety and homeland security are primary functions of the FCC. When government decides to censor, surveil, or manipulate information in the future it seems likely it will be instrumented through the FCC as that relationship was used to do the same for radio and television in the past.


I already did. Read the comment thread.

It's pretty obvious, but if no one wants to think about it I can't make them.


I'd be interested to hear you explain how they are


It would be more accurate to say that regulation is an avenue for legitimizing surveillance.

It's purpose is to turn an unconstitutional program into a legal system for enforcing regulatory compliance.


> Second

Pretty easy to find. What's your question?

http://www.propublica.org/special/sealing-loose-lips-chartin...


This timeline shows 3 indictments for journalistic sources during the Obama administration (I'm not counting Kiriakou, who was his own source, and leaked CIA secrets during the promotion of a book he wrote, but even if I did, that's 4 indictments, not a half-dozen, and even fewer imprisonments).

So, back to my question:

Who are the half-dozen imprisoned journalistic sources Coll is referring to? I'm sure he's not just making it up!

FWIW: I have done some research here; I asked a similar question the last time the sound bite about Obama/Holder's leak prosecution zealousness came up:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5701813


Ah, got it. I'll have to look into it a little more. It does seem there's some uncertainty about the total.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/jan/10/...


That said, the number of Espionage Act prosecutions by this admin. is concerning and pernicious in itself.


Can you support that argument with evidence?


Yes, the evidence would be every Espionage Act prosecution under the Obama administration. Which are more numerous than the total of every previous administration since 1917.

If you could justify how that's not worrisome that would be great.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917


If you read the link I posted upthread, I won't have to repeat my response to the claim that Obama is more zealous about the Espionage Act than his predecessors.


Maybe such cases are easier to prosecute in the computer era?


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