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Hack has actually dropped support for that format, the only place I've ever seen it used seriously is in wordpress.


The alt syntax is pretty heavily used in frameworks that use vanilla PHP for their view templating, including the Zend Framework..


You can also hint on interfaces. If strict typing is important, I use the SPL primitive wrapper classes like SplString or SplInt http://php.net/manual/en/class.spltype.php


Why would you use this over JSON? Looks like if your application makes heavy use of arrays, space will take way more 'space' than JSON.

eg: {"test":[1,2,3]} vs test\n item 1\n item 2\n item 3\n


Space is great for building DSLs on top of. You often want to have additional types that your domain specific code recognizes. For example, your example could also be written in a DSL that is also valid space:

``` test [1,2,3] ```

Space is best for cases where you have small to medium sized objects that are often viewed/edited by humans, such as APIs, config files, schemas, or database objects.


I'm more upset by the way they are handling it, it looks like they aren't going to replace them, but try to fix them. Anyone who's sent an RROD xbox (I haven't) knows the pain that will come with that. You'll see your PS4 again in a few weeks.


I had the RROD with an XBox and they were _very_ quick getting it back. I think it was a couple of days. It's still an inconvenience, but it was also after more than a year of use.

Ctl-Alt-Del is referring to this as the "Pulsing Blue Dick-Punch of Death". I think everyone should do everything they can to spread that term. It's too good to pass up.


Unless you lived right by, and I mean next door, to the refurb place I believe in Texas, it was never a few days. A few weeks maybe. I've had a Xbox 360 since launch go through 2 rrod's (so not really the same console) and at best it was 2 weeks to Georgia. They handled everything but shipping was never 2/3 day or better either way. I haven't had a return in 2-3 years now so maybe they got soooo good at the end that changed but I never remember it being that quick. MS also finally owned up to and corrected a serious design flaw. I don't expect the same from Sony just yet. You'll at least get them looking at it in the same manner initially. It behooves everyone for them to check it out and refurbish first, then just replace as they determine the root cause.


I must not play my 360 enough but I have one of the originalish white 360's bought at the same time as others (not day one, but before any of the fixes) and never had a RROD.

But now that I say that online watch it die the next time I turn it on. Glad I never had to send it in because Minnesota is a skosh farther than Georgia.


I live in Poland and had a white one RROD after about 11 months. Everybody told me: it'll take weeks. So I sent it in and went out and got myself one of the slim ones. Five or six days after a courier came to pick it up, another one came to drop it off. It'd go to Germany, been fixed and sent back to the Poland in under a week.


I forgot about that point. At some stage they would send you a refurb as you likely "proved" you sent yours in. They knew they would replace it so sometimes it would come back stupid quick. In all but the last of mine, I got the same unit back which likely accounts for the delays. They, and I as well, likely preferred letting us keep the same unit for warranty, live, etc purposes as the "move my stuff to a new Xbox" wasn't terribly fun to do, much less any more than once.


It is imperative to get the playstations working, simply from a buisness view. Game publishers want to position their releases into the hype around the newly released PS4. If an unknown, not really small number of PS4s just doesn't work, two bad things happen: i) these people won't buy those games due to a lack of console and even worse, ii) will probably start talking to their friends - and guess what happens, if someone is on the fence about the new console and his friend is like "Yeah I got my PS4 and it doesn't work". It's not a pretty situation, especially if one starts thinking about reported cases vs real numer of cases.


Idk, I've never had that happen, while some people have had it happen over and over. From my perspective, it doesn't seem any more inevitable than the console becoming obsolete.


Really? I've had that happen on five different units I (or my brothers) have owned. Given, after our first "new" one rrod'd, we started buying refurbs. From what I've seen, though, it really is inevitable, and I've just started expecting them to die at some random point. My current one has lasted two years, though.


What you're describing is the "as long as you omit health-consciousness as a variable" part of his comment.


Word is, apns is still up, only the dev center has been effected.


I don't think it's a marketing campaign. I do however think it is stupid.


I think it would be silly to eat it forever, but compared to most "survival" type foods, it seems great. Or compared to the horrible junk food diet a lot of people eat.


I disagree. This seems to me like something that wouldn't have happened under the supervision of Jobs. I feel like the redesign of their UI hasn't gone far enough, that there attempt to copy other trends is different than what apple has done before. I believe that with this update, apple has put the final nail in the coffin to remove the stigma of "it's apple, so it's better."


>I feel like the redesign of their UI hasn't gone far enough

In 7 months (after Ive got in charge)? Let's see any team in the world do better in the same time. Not to mention that if they had gone further, people would also complaint ("oh, this is not the iOS we knew and love at all anymore").

People talk about Windows Phone similarities. It took Microsoft 4-5 years AFTER the iPhone was introduced to copy all the basics (that all modern smartphones copied anyway) and get something out there compelling enough to consider buying (and it's not like many people did buy it, anyway).

In contrast, this redesign took Apple only 7-8 months. Along with new features and lots of behaviour changes in the UI.

This is essentially version 1 of the new UI. It will be polished further in iOS 8.

>that there attempt to copy other trends is different than what apple has done before.

Didn't Apple adopt the Delicious Library skeuomorphic real-life look around 6 years back? Including snatching the Delicious Library graphic designer from the company he worked in?

How do we know this is about "copying other trends" instead of what Ive would have liked to do all along, if he was in charge for the UI?


This wasn't supposed to be read as a bash against apple or the iphone, just an observation. When the original design was done, the world was a very different place where apple was very clearly ahead. With this UI it seems to me that the differences between ios android and windows phone are pretty minor. I used to tell people that you'd get an easier experience with apple, and a better experience with the right android phone. More recently, I've found myself telling people that it really doesn't matter as they are all awesome phones, but if you could get an iphone at the same price as others, it's probably worth it to you. Now it seems like that last clause isn't true anymore, at least not to me.


>This wasn't supposed to be read as a bash against apple or the iphone, just an observation. When the original design was done, the world was a very different place where apple was very clearly ahead. With this UI it seems to me that the differences between ios android and windows phone are pretty minor.

Well, as Jobs said, the iPhone was ahead of the industry by about 5 years. Those 5 years have passed.

Did anyone think the competitors would never catch up? It's not like Windows for the desktop is like XP anymore. It has also seen much more refinement and maturity, and could be compared far more favourably to OS X.

That said, Apple / iOS retains the benefits of the 5 year head-start: iOS is more coherent and mature, the whole ecosystem is bigger (from apps, to accounts on file, to third party peripherals, etc), etc etc.


Exactly. Also, as they are becoming more similar to Android, it won't take much for users to actually switch to it. I am sure Google is happy to see this development.


I don't think it's Android's busy, ... unique interface that keeps Apple owners from switching. It's the hundreds of dollars in apps they've invested in that won't transfer.


I don't know that that's true, I think it's general consensus that an android phone is not as good as an iPhone. I'd wager that this update removes a lot of that divide and gives people a reason to look at the alternative.

This is just speculation, I haven't run the iOS 7 developer preview yet.


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