RAIDZ1 will add more stress to the consumer ssd's as to enterprise one due to surprinsingly different hardware. Consumer ssd's life times are calculated on a 8 hour shift (the tbw) and enterprise are calculated on 24/7.
Please - dont - use - consumer ssd's - with zfs raidz1
And that's relevant how? If you live in a city where everyone owns a petrol scooter it's absurd. Can't wait for all of these to be electric, it's just common sense.
There is literally any noise from the engine, whine or otherwise. Whether a noise is bad or not can be subjective but silence is objective.
So at least for that one it kind of draws into question your overall conclusions here. You might be hearing an ICE and thinking it is electric, or some specific badly tuned vehicle or something.
I am very certain I am talking about electrical and hybrid vehicles. The first one that had me aghast was a Nissan Leaf. Today, too many. Obviously I cannot confuse them with ICE ("brooom").
The point about the "whining possibly-engine" comes from a chat with a friend, where I said that they had decided to really use the most annoying overlapped noises to make the cars audible: he replied, those are not the additional noises, but the "noises from the engine" (probably from the whole system). I don't know.
> silence is objective
The electrical and hybrid vehicles I witnessed are very far from silent (save for the bicycles - I can't assess them, too little experience). As expressed, to us those noises - running noises and operational noises - are annoying to a whole new level.
Nissan Leaf motor is silent, there's really just objectively not a noise from the motor itself which could offend you.
There's still some possibilities here: maybe you came across someone with a broken car and believed that to be representative.
Most other explanations here just involve some form of confusion on your part to be honest: that it was the backup-alert noise that it makes _because_ the car is otherwise too silent, that it wasn't actually a Leaf but an ICE engine that you saw, or something else.
I insist. It cannot be about broken cars, because there would be a large number of them.
The Nissan Leaf cars I experienced are not silent at all - it does not matter if it is the motor or another part of the system, or if it is the additional noise that was mandated legally because they were deemed too silent. Similarly, its Peugeot "twin" is "whaaa" whining, and so are the hybrid Jeep Renegade, and many others (as I was writing another reply nearby a Lexus) that had me turn in the street and address the drivers with impatience.
Is it possible instead that you have no noise sensitivity for that noise? Or maybe - that makes no sense but - if I pointed you to that noise you would be surprised that some find that a foreground in perception? Because it is really bewildering that you call those cars silent - they are the opposite. A large number of electric or hybrid cars produce a whining "whaaa", a sort of synth chord, loud with a filter-pass in an abominably annoying band. I think I even heard one with a fake ICE noise (an imitation), but still a coloured timbre (not a natural noise but a synth with a perceptible note) in that same band.
And the explanations you mention really make no sense: the beeps of the backup-alert noise - which we all know were mandated because the vehicles were supposed to be too quiet - are intermittent, whereas the whine is continuous.
(The vehicles were supposed to be too quiet, so they mandated extra noises. Some of them are guessed to be nerve wracking - which is also normal in societies that have lost their natural sense.)
But look: it is absolutely impossible that I can confuse an electric car noise with that of an ICE - and it is out of question that you can allege that.
Maybe ask other people whether they hear noise from electric or low-speed hybrid cars. Really, ask other people.
Edit: at this point I thought I could sample one - but I am sure they could be found on YouTube etc., there should be no need. ... I checked: it's full of them samples.
>>And the noise pollition I hear coming from the electric to me is a million times worse than ICEs.
Is this some kind of trolling?
>>accessible (we do not have electronic money).
And is this some kind of joke? An electric scooter can be plugged into a solar panel and recharged within a day. For free. Even if every oil refinery on earth explodes you will be able to charge your electric scooter by the wonderful power of the sun.
Unless you mean the cost to purchase - have you seen the cost of a new Vespa? You can have two electric scooters for the price of a new Vespa.
And electric scooters have long ago matched needs of city users in terms of range. Recharge time isn't as fast as petrol, sure, but people tend not to drive scooters for 500 miles in a day. You drive it to work, drive it back, plug it in. Or charge during the day using solar.
Or you know, for really crazy sci-fi ideas just look at china, where electric scooters with swappable batteries are extremely common. Even if you work as a food delivery driver you can have a fresh fully charged battery in less time than it would take you to fill up with petrol.
No, perfectly serious. If your question is because you thought I meant noise levels - no, I meant noise quality. E.g. a good insulated ICE has a pleasant noise. On the contrary, the sane people I know physically panic in front of the strident cacophony and asylum level beeps that the new vehicles are bringing.
> An electric scooter can be plugged into a solar panel and recharged within a day. For free
Well, that is also not always satisfiable. But it's an idea: if you remain nearby, you could plug the solar panel in - and, with some structure, also get your shade. (Panel-as-umbrella. I am serious. Shade is not granted everywhere.)
But - still very serious - we know that research to make electric vehicle recharge through solar panels failed (not enough miles collected in a reasonable time): if the electric scooters are so efficient (in terms of miles/charge), would not it be a good idea to have them continuously under some solar power connection? Maybe "barrel roof" models - the roof as a solar panel stripe.
Anyway: as noted in the other replies, that recharge for electric vehicles passes through electronic money when you are far from your own outlets is a problem.
You know this is a thread about scooters, right? If you live somewhere like Rome or even London all you hear is just very loud revving all day long, not least because teenagers who ride them tend to just rev them for no reason. But even a vespa is very loud compared to a petrol car. And again, electric scooters usually don't have any kind of artificial synthetic noise to make themselves known like cars do. So it you magically replaced all petrol scooters with electric ones the streets would get about 50x quieter.
>>would not it be a good idea to have them continuously under some solar power connection?
Maybe. Scooters have tiny electric batteries, usually no more than 1-2kWh. That much can be easily recharged in a day from even a small solar panel. But I suspect a scooter with a canopy wouldn't be accepted purely because it looks weird. But you can get foldable panels that fit in your backpack, leave it on the scooter when you park it and it will recharge to full while you work.
Fair point about mediating between generics and specifics, but I am not sure I have yet heard an electric scooter's noise - I was more focused on electric engines in general, and I suspected that there can be similarities with the cars.
Relevant: I only returned to the thread today as yesterday I had to leave just after my post, and I walked thinking "I really cannot remember a loud Vespa". Destiny served: minutes later one passed by - admittedly much too loud. But I am not fully convinced somebody did not do something to it (the noise may have not been the out-of-the-factory one).
But you wrote «it's just common sense» and I am fully skeptical and wary about what could happen with the tech implementations. 'Cause also in real time, as I am typing, a Lexus (I think) passed by and even if the noise is low, its texture was sufficient to have me break the typing and go look at the perpetrator. Would common sense be something granted, electric vehicles would be planned as a nice solution - instead of torture with drawbacks, as we see it.
And: ok, urban context, but still: how do you charge them - suppose you live in a flat? What if solar is not sufficient?
And what if, still speaking of horrific implementation, with the current craze, they build "smartphones with two wheels"? Would we still be able to find "proper" (electric-based) ones, lean - say, without microphone GPS and tracking libraries?
You mention Rome: I had to notice that telephone conversations with people on public transport there are broken continuously by the bababababa of the doors alarms. Another perspective on urban noise and on common sense. The transformation of the landscape into the merge between mechanical factory and construction site is ongoing.
> leave it on the scooter when you park it
Well, that is part of the «that is also not always satisfiable» and «if you remain nearby» in my post. Your proposal (parking and leaving equipment there) could work in the Draconian Saudi Arabia, but not generically.
But (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48792667) there is (it seems, I am not sure where it comes from) an especially fastidious noise from the engine, then additional noises to make the vehicle louder (and those I have heard are worse than nails on chalkboards), and then additional alarms to increase the "construction site" effect.
It is not a matter of decibels. It is a matter of nerves impact.
I wrote «the noise poll[u]tion I hear coming from the electric to me is a million times worse than ICEs». Pollution. It has many dimensions - "loud" is just one.
You need to recharge electric vehicles (of course), and the recharging systems I am informed of require electronic money. Not all people have it. (And not all people accept leaving a DB track of their stops.)
"Cheap" makes no sense here - you may have misunderstood the post. Whether charging costs 1 penny or 1 grand, it is still inaccessible if the plugs are automated totems not accepting cash.
I think they're also super useless, to be honest. Incredibly slow. Linux support continued to degrade the entire time I owned mine. The keyboard and display are far too small to be usable. The graphics chip accelerates basically nothing.
I sold mine [1] on eBay back in October. I hope the new owner enjoys it more than I did :)
Yoooo, small world! I'm the guy in Hawaii who bought it from you :)
I haven't done anything too exciting with it yet, still have to get around to seeing if T2 SDE works on it, but it's joined me a number of times on trips to the library for writing, and it's been delightful for that. The keyboard is surprisingly good, and it feels like a supercomputer compared to a WorkPad Z50, hah.
A friend met with Oracle salesdroids (his company has spent a few million with them in the last few years).
They told him everything is oriented towards AI, to the point that otherwise profitable software is not being updated and development has stopped on anything new.
Oracle has a lot of niche solutions and the one my friend’s corporation uses is profitable but not on the AI path, so it is being put into maintenance mode.
That’s makes sense in its way, if they’re convinced and absolutely certain that’s the future. By analogy, I bet there were some carriage manufacturers who bet the farm on internal combustion engines when horse drawn carriages were still popular. It would seem insane at the time for them to give up their reliable business for something risky and unknown. However, in retrospect it would seem like bad business to throw resources after dead-end product lines, even if they’re valuable, because each dollar not advancing their automobile R&D was a dollar wasted on legacy stuff.
I’m not saying AI is the next internal combustion engine. If Oracle is certain it is, though, then that sounds like a more rational move.
> However, in retrospect it would seem like bad business to throw resources after dead-end product lines, even if they’re valuable, because each dollar not advancing their automobile R&D was a dollar wasted on legacy stuff.
If each dollar you throw at dead-end product lines returns $1.20, that gives you more to spend on R&D for the new hotness. Shutting down the old business doesn't maximize spending on new R&D.
Now it's different when there's a conflict over resources. . However, in retrospect it would seem like bad business to throw resources after dead-end product lines, even if they’re valuable, because each dollar not advancing their automobile R&D was a dollar wasted on legacy stuff. If we need kstrauser to keep the old business running and we also need kstrauser to have effective R&D for the new business, hard choices are ahead. For carriage makers, manufacturing facilities would be the big resource issue; maybe you need to stop production of carriages to start working on horseless carriages because they're built in the same facility and can't share and a second location would be too costly.
I don't think the facility argument applies to Oracle. And probably not the key person argument either; line of business apps and AI are pretty different and I wouldn't expect a top person in one to be a top person in the other (although they might be).
That's a valid point, and to be clear, I'm not claiming Oracle's making a wise choice. Among other business risks with the plan is that customers who've been burned by Oracle abandoning the specific product line they needed might not be quick to start using Oracle for all their AI stuff. Like I don't think anyone likes using Oracle's products, and if you're starting your company's AI plan from scratch, that might be an excellent time to consider not-Oracle as your provider/partner/contractor/whatever.
However, if your dead-end investment has a 20% ROR, and you think your AI investment will have a 1000% ROR, you'd kinda be foolish not to throw every possible resource at the new venture. I'd bet that a lot of the people maintaining Product A could be switched to the AI project. It's going to need lots of people supporting the networking, CRUD APIs for various things, sales, tech support, legal, etc. The product itself will be different, but much of the underlying support might look the same between the two. Why "waste" someone maintaining Product A's CI/CD pipeline when they could be helping the AI project move faster?
And again, I'm not arguing that they're right. It's more that if they're completely convinced that this is the future of their company, then that could be a rational, defensible decision. There's a lot of "ifs" in all this, to be sure. And in any case, don't make the mistake of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison.
I don't recall any current car manufacturer with such lineage.
Honestly, at Oracle scale, doing the "let's destroy and rebuild the company mid-flight" seems like a losing proposition compared to newly formed companies or more natural extension of existing companies.
And meanwhile, customer reliant on Oracle products are left alone, with all the negative output it entails.
Even if AI is the next combustion engine, would you bet the farm on a C tier buggy whip manufacturer like Oracle being the next Ford or General Motors?
Why are you asking the author about that? It's rather clear they are just trying to present Oracle's perspective, not whether Oracle will be the one who will champion the next technological revolution.
Yeah I don't dispute they have (had?) successful products. Just saying for a company to abandon successful products in favor of a wildly costly gamble is insane. To even arrive at the point where it seems like a "tradeoff" is delusional thinking--like, "we're going to stop supporting this successful product because the future value of this other thing is greater"... what? They've contorted themselves into believing that the future value that product is irrelevant, and all their customers whose trust they're burning are irrelevant, because... chatbots?
Anecdote time; startup I worked for was bought by Oracle in 2015
Oracle was all in on spinning up a less corporate bubble that felt like the startup zeitgeist; we had Slack while Oracle legacy units had in house XMPP
Management was dumping everything into data center and cloud growth and trying to catch up
I stayed for a couple years to help my team migrate and prepare for release the product Oracle bought the startup for. Not long but long enough to get a sense of the internal story and driving themes
No doubt in my mind this is Oracle trying to get ahead in this hype cycle. By 2017 upper management did nothing but lament how far behind Oracle was.
Cut n run from everything early this time to go all in on new meme is exactly the kind of choice Larry would make given constant anxiety on display about missing the cloud bubble.
IIRC it was Greenspan that didn’t mean to, but did disclose the use of gold swaps, so even if there is all the gold that is claimed to be in Fort Knox, the question of who owns the gold is unanswered.
Two years ago I paid $60, CASH, no co-pay, no insurance, for X-rays of my hips. They were all digital and I got the interpretation (which was included) before I had finished driving the hours' drive home.
Good to see that there is still development going on, a year after the fork on it. I don't view the love for Wayland as requiring deprecation of X11 or vice versa.
This is a known potential side-effect of these drugs. When I started them my doctor warned me about a possible lack of motivation. These drugs trigger your body's satiation mechanism (as I understand them–not a doctor) and that can apply to more things than just eating.
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