I am for my day job. I still mourn slack and gsuite.

I’m at the point to tell people (friends, neighbors, fellow parents, family, ie, not HN readers) to prolong the life of their existing computers and install what I think is the easiest windows equivalent on their computers: kubuntu.

Gnome is nice and all, but the default ui, and remember defaults matter for a lot of people, is just too jarring.

The people I am talking about just wanna browse the web, go on Facebook and use their gmail. Look at funny YouTube videos. The default KDE ui has that windows start menu and looks roughly the same so they can hit the ground running.

My family switched to Gnome 2 a couple of decades ago. My mother quite liked it and has consistently installed it on every new computer she bought. Her only confusion lately has been with the ubuntu snap packages and how they behave between multiple accounts on the machine.

These days she uses MATE which still offers that Gnome 2 layout. Awesome thing about Linux is that option to fork, so her desktop environment has remained consistent for over 20 years.

Try Debian, versus ubuntu it’s like the windows 10 to windows 11

My mom's been installing Ubuntu on her own. I've not been involved in the process and have no remote access to the machine to even fix the snap situation.

At home, I run a mix of Devuan and Gentoo.

At work, primarily Devuan with some Ubuntu where COTS only officially supports Ubuntu or Redhat.

GNOME has changed drastically. It's nothing like Gnome 2.

I agree. I was putting a shout out for MATE as the option for those who want a predictable traditional UI since it is essentially the long-term maintenance of GNOME 2.

When GNOME 3 was first released, I gave it an honest try for several months but it just did not do what I wanted in a UI. MATE competes well with XFCE on memory usage, still has optional acceleration, and had a more consistent interface with more features (although XFCE has improved). And the fact that those in the family don't have to learn a new layout really helps.

Cinnamon has a very classic Windows layout. I am getting very comfortable using MX Linux with KDE, especially that I have been able to move my NVME drive over several laptops now. Starting to get the itch to find a rolling distro to skip reinstalling the OS every two years.

Surely it doesn't matter what the DE is then? My mum adjusted from Windows XP (when that was current) to Ubuntu 14-ish fairly easily, by simply remembering "switch it on and then click on the big swirly fox thing".

> Surely it doesn't matter what the DE is then?

It matters a lot if you deviate from the ones that (are set to) behave in a similar way.

"Click the big orange blob" is pretty universal.

Although I guess one of the reasons I dislike KDE is because it's so random, unintuitive, and unfamiliar.

Ubuntu comes with a dock which is close enough to Windows.

The comment chain you're replying to is arguing that vanilla GNOME is too different, and they're right.

Great if you've used Windows, I guess.

I've been a full time developer since 1988, using linux since 1996, and kubuntu is the only linux distro I'd use ATM for a desktop.

There's paper cuts but it feels about right.

I tried kionite but there was too much friction.

My use case for minio was simply to test out uploading things to s3 for work related apps.. I loved that web ui too.

Looks like i'm gonna give seaweedfs a whirl instead of hunting down the docker image and sha of the last pre-enshittified version of Minio

I've been a GitHub user since the very early days. I had a beta invite to the service. I really wish they didn't swap out the FE for a React FE.

They need to start rolling back some of their most recent changes.

I mean, if they want people to start moving to self hosted GitLab, this is gonna get that ball rolling.

GitLab is slower for me than that React GH app. Why would I move to GitLab?

Was this a local/on prem version of GL or the hosted web version?

My previous org had an on prem version hosted on a local VM. It was extremely fast, we setup another VM for the runners, and one for storing all the docker containers. The thing I’ve seen people do it use the VM they put their gitlab instance on for everything and ends up bogging things down quite a bit.

I work in the payments industry. Just do everything in cents and divide by 100. Makes your life a lot easier.

I’ve been using vim and now neovim for 15 years. Before that I was using TextMate. I’ve hand written my own config. I used Janus by Carlhuda, SolarVim, and now I’m on lazyvim because Folke is a goddamn wizard and I want to spend more time getting work done that dealing with breakage in my neovim config

I was honestly surprised the University of Minnesota didn’t part ways with the teacher and students who performed this bullshit research.

This level of malfeasance strikes me as something akin to plagiarism for a professional writer.

This is retroactive ass covering by the UMN IRB.

I wondered when Apple was going to do this. Seemed inevitable when Final Cut Pro on the iPad had a subscription, I think.

I hope I can still use the non subscription version of Pixelmator pro I bought

This rebrand will be liked less than when Gap, Cracker Barrel and Jaguar introduced new logos.

At this rate I wouldn’t put it past MSFT to rename the company and all products Copilot. Just Copilot.

Facebook renaming itself to Meta Platforms wasn't any better.