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I've submitted multiple apps to the Windows Store.

They're not desperate and they don't want crap, which is why they have a high bar. The problem is the testing procedures aren't always consistent, so something may pass once and get rejected when you do your next update for a bug that existed in a previous version. But, that's the nature of testing - the same thing has happened for us on Apple's app store.

Android appears to be the only store that lets you ship anything you want.


> The problem is the testing procedures aren't always consistent, so something may pass once and get rejected when you do your next update for a bug that existed in a previous version.

That's not even relevant to TFA's point, which is that the review output is so terse and opaque it's not actionable and essentially resulted in him having to bug dozens of people and fine-comb multiple time through the application to find out what the issues were.

There wasn't any complex issue, all of them were nigh-trivial (except the D3D one maybe) and TFAA gladly acknowledge this, the issue he outlines is that if the reports had actual information in them it'd have taken him a day to get everything fixed rather than 2 months.


They don't want crap? Have you seen some of the apps on the Windows Store?


touché


I used to work directly for Elop and thought he was/is an amazing leader. So while I'm biased, it's only because I know and have deep insight on him - I have nothing to gain.

This feels ironically similar to saying Obama failed because he didn't fix Bush's mess fast enough. Nokia was heading for a slow decline. Elop's strategy accelerated that decline short term in hopes they could turn around. It's a risk he and the board fully knew existed. It hasn't gone the way they want fast enough, which sucks, but they had the guts to give it a shot.

Android would have been the safe bet. I don't think any can argue that Nokia would be a much more valuable company today if they took on Samsung for Android leadership instead of going down an empty road with Windows Phone.

Instead, they swung for the fences with WP7. They missed. But, they have a few more chances to try to make it happen, and they're now effectively bankrolled by a company with much deeper pockets and motivation to win then if they stuck with Meego or Symbian.

I can't say I'm confident, but I am optimistic. I wouldn't count them out yet.


...they're now effectively bankrolled by a company with much deeper pockets and motivation to win then if they stuck with Meego or Symbian.

I think this is a good point that's completely overlooked by the other doomsayers in this thread.

Nokia : Microsoft :: General Motors : the US government. Having alienated every other hardware OEM of note, Ballmer can't afford to let Nokia fail. Their relationship is strategic, not tactical.

This wouldn't have escaped Elop's attention when he had to decide between betting the house on Android versus Windows Phone.


Microsoft can easily let Nokia fail. Microsoft is already considering making its own phone, just like they've made their own tablets and game consoles:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57458288-75/microsoft-weig...

Every few years Microsoft gives another lesson about why you should never partner with Microsoft. People have very short memories, apparently.


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