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Not trying to tell anyone else how to live, just want to make sure the other side of this argument is visible. I run 5+ agents all day every day. I measure, test, and validate outputs exhaustively. I value the decrease in noise in output here because I am very much not looking to micromanage process because I am simply too slow to keep up. When I want logging I can follow to understand “thought process” I ask for that in a specific format in my prompt something like “talk through the problem and your exploration of the data step by step as you go before you make any changes or do any work and use that plan as the basis of your actions”.

I still think it’d be nice to allow an output mode for you folks who are married to the previous approach since it clearly means a lot to you.


+1

First, I agree with most commentators that they should just offer 3 modes of visibility: "default", "high", "verbose" or whatever

But I'm with you that this mode of working where you watch the agent work in real-time seems like it will be outdated soon. Even if we're not quite there, we've all seen how quickly these models improve. Last year I was saying Cursor was better because it allowed me to better understand every single change. I'm not really saying that anymore.


This is the fundamental tension in this story, yes.


> I run 5+ agents all day every day

Curious what plans you’re using? running 24/7 x 5 agents would eat up several $200 subscriptions pretty fast


My primary plan is the $200 Claude max. They only operate during my working hours and there is significant downtime as they deliver results and await my review.


> I measure, test, and validate outputs exhaustively.

How do you do this? Do you follow traditional testing practices or do you have novel strategies like agents with separate responsibilities?


Snout https://www.snoutplans.com/ | Software Engineer | Remote US | Full Time

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We're a small startup team consisting of fewer than 25 people. Successful team members are comfortable participating in spirited and detailed debates to establish product and technical plans, and then taking initiative and ownership to deliver on those plans quickly and effectively. Our team is collaborative. You can expect to meet with the team on a daily basis, pair regularly, and participate in slack discussions throughout the day. We keep pacific work hours and expect the team to be available during 9a-5p at a minimum. If you're looking for a team where you can carve out your area of responsibility, work with experienced partners who have your back, grow your role alongside the growth of the company, and take a product to the moon, then we should talk.


Snout https://www.snoutplans.com/ | Principal Software Engineer | Remote US | Full Time

Join us at Snout on our mission to ensure no one ever has to make a health decision for their pet based on the cash in their bank account. Snout plans pay for 100% of routine veterinary care, unlimited visits, and additional member benefits - think pet insurance, that you will actually use every year.

Principal Software Engineer - You will be working on our core wellness product, launched late-2022. Work includes the addition of new wellness plan features and capabilities, enhancement of user experience, testing and operation of the wellness platform, and special projects that arise from time to time. We frequently work cross-functionally and you can expect to write code and perform technical operations for our marketing, sales, and support efforts, as well.

Our tech stack includes Node.js, React, PostgreSQL, AWS, and Tailwind. We use both JavaScript and TypeScript heavily.

To apply please visit our careers page: https://jobs.gem.com/snout

We're a small startup team consisting of fewer than 25 people. Successful team members are comfortable participating in spirited and detailed debates to establish product and technical plans, and then taking initiative and ownership to deliver on those plans quickly and effectively. Our team is collaborative. You can expect to meet with the team on a daily basis, pair regularly, and participate in slack discussions throughout the day. We keep pacific work hours and expect the team to be available during 9a-5p at a minimum. If you're looking for a team where you can carve out your area of responsibility, work with experienced partners who have your back, grow your role alongside the growth of the company, and take a product to the moon, then we should talk.


I enjoyed the introduction interview. The interviewer was nice and fun to talk with.


I bet their humour was on the nose!


Snout https://www.snoutplans.com/ | Principal Software Engineer | Remote US | Full Time

Join us at Snout on our mission to ensure no one ever has to make a health decision for their pet based on the cash in their bank account. Snout plans pay for 100% of routine veterinary care, unlimited visits, and additional member benefits - think pet insurance, that you will actually use every year.

Principal Software Engineer - You will be working on our core wellness product, launched late-2022. Work includes the addition of new wellness plan features and capabilities, enhancement of user experience, testing and operation of the wellness platform, and special projects that arise from time to time. We frequently work cross-functionally and you can expect to write code and perform technical operations for our marketing, sales, and support efforts, as well.

Our tech stack includes Node.js, React, PostgreSQL, AWS, and Tailwind. We use both JavaScript and TypeScript heavily.

To apply please email jobs@snoutplans.com.

Our typical process is a 30 minute conversation with the hiring manager testing for cultural fit followed by a one hour technical interview.

We're a small startup team consisting of fewer than ten people. Successful team members are comfortable participating in spirited and detailed debates to establish product and technical plans, and then taking initiative and ownership to deliver on those plans quickly and effectively. Our team is collaborative. You can expect to meet with the team on a daily basis, pair regularly, and participate in slack discussions throughout the day. We keep pacific work hours and expect the team to be available during 9a-5p at a minimum. If you're looking for a team where you can carve out your area of responsibility, work with experienced partners who have your back, grow your role alongside the growth of the company, and take a product to the moon, then we should talk.


Any plans on hiring for more junior roles?

Very noble idea btw. Hope you are able to scale up and make a difference!


Snout https://www.snoutplans.com/ | Principal Software Engineer, Product Manager, Product Marketing | Remote US | Full Time

Join us at Snout on our mission to ensure no one ever has to make a health decision for their pet based on the cash in their back account. Snout plans pay for 100% of routine veterinary care, unlimited visits, and additional member benefits - think pet insurance, that you will actually use every year.

Principal Software Engineer -

You will be working on our core wellness product, launched late-2022. Work includes the addition of new wellness plan features and capabilities, enhancement of user experience, testing and operation of the wellness platform, and special projects that arise from time to time. We frequently work cross-functionally and you can expect to write code and perform technical operations for our marketing, sales, and support efforts, as well.

Our tech stack includes Node.js, React, PostgreSQL, AWS, and Tailwind. We use both JavaScript and TypeScript heavily.

To apply for the engineering role, please email kyle@snoutplans.com.

Our typical process is a one hour technical interview followed by a casual 30 minute meeting with our whole team.

We're a small startup team consisting of fewer than ten people. Successful team members are comfortable participating in spirited and detailed debates to establish product and technical plans, and then taking initiative and ownership to deliver on those plans quickly and effectively. Our team is collaborative. You can expect to meet with the team on a daily basis, pair regularly, and participate in slack discussions throughout the day. We keep pacific work hours and expect the team to be available during 9a-5p at a minimum. If you're looking for a team where you can carve out your area of responsibility, work with experienced partners who have your back, grow your role alongside the growth of the company, and take a product to the moon, then we should talk.


> To apply for the engineering role, please email kyle@snoutplans.com.

What of the other roles? There's no careers or other similar pages on your site.


Snout https://www.snoutplans.com | Head of Finance, Head of Marketing | Remote US | Full Time

Join us at Snout on our mission to ensure no one ever has to make a health decision for their pet based on the cash in their back account. Snout plans pay for 100% of routine veterinary care, unlimited visits, and additional member benefits - think pet insurance, that you will actually use every year.

Head of Finance

As Head of Finance, you will manage all financial functions at Snout, including financial planning, analysis, accounting, and compliance. Key responsibilities include managing cash flow, securing and managing debt, and optimizing our pricing model.

Head of Marketing

We’re looking for a dynamic Marketing Manager to lead our marketing efforts. You’ll work with veterinarians directly to help market them market Snout plans to their clients, manage the Snout brand and messaging, and experiment with various marketing tactics.

We’re a small, collaborative startup team. If you’re looking to carve out your area of responsibility, work with experienced partners, and grow with the company, we should talk.

For more details, please visit https://snout.notion.site/Snout-Jobs-adead9f2f1564572b82f221....

To apply, please email jobs@snoutplans.com.


Snout https://www.snoutplans.com/ | Principal Software Engineer, Product Manager, Product Marketing | Remote US | Full Time

Join us at Snout on our mission to ensure no one ever has to make a health decision for their pet based on the cash in their back account. Snout plans pay for 100% of routine veterinary care, unlimited visits, and additional member benefits - think pet insurance, that you will actually use every year.

Principal Software Engineer -

You will be working on our core wellness product, launched late-2022. Work includes the addition of new wellness plan features and capabilities, enhancement of user experience, testing and operation of the wellness platform, and special projects that arise from time to time. We frequently work cross-functionally and you can expect to write code and perform technical operations for our marketing, sales, and support efforts, as well.

Our tech stack includes Node.js, React, PostgreSQL, AWS, and Tailwind. We use both JavaScript and TypeScript heavily.

To apply for the engineering role, please email kyle@snoutplans.com.

Our typical process is a one hour technical interview followed by a casual 30 minute meeting with our whole team.

We're a small startup team consisting of fewer than ten people. Successful team members are comfortable participating in spirited and detailed debates to establish product and technical plans, and then taking initiative and ownership to deliver on those plans quickly and effectively. Our team is collaborative. You can expect to meet with the team on a daily basis, pair regularly, and participate in slack discussions throughout the day. We keep pacific work hours and expect the team to be available during 9a-5p at a minimum. If you're looking for a team where you can carve out your area of responsibility, work with experienced partners who have your back, grow your role alongside the growth of the company, and take a product to the moon, then we should talk.

Product Manager -

We're looking for someone with startup experience to spearhead our product's evolution. You'll deeply understand our product, identify strategic focuses, and coordinate with our engineering team through Slack huddles and Linear stories. Your role is critical in blending product management expertise with our fast-paced startup environment, driving our mission to transform pet healthcare. Ideal candidates are adept at navigating product complexities and fostering cross-functional collaboration.

Product Marketing - We're looking for someone to elevate our product's market presence. You'll develop engaging narratives, drive go-to-market strategies, and execute targeted campaigns. Your role is pivotal in connecting our innovative pet healthcare solutions with our audience, using a data-driven approach to boost user adoption. Ideal for creative, strategic marketers ready to make a significant impact.

To apply for the product management or marketing roles, please email emily@snoutplans.com


Snout https://www.snoutplans.com/ | Senior Software Engineer | Remote US | Full Time | $120k + equity and benefits

Join us at Snout on our mission to ensure no one ever has to make a health decision for their pet based on the cash in their back account. Snout plans pay for 100% of routine veterinary care, unlimited visits, and additional member benefits - think pet insurance, that you will actually use every year.

You will be working on our core wellness product, launched late-2022. Work includes the addition of new wellness plan features and capabilities, enhancement of user experience, testing and operation of the wellness platform, and special projects that arise from time to time. We frequently work cross-functionally and you can expect to write code and perform technical operations for our marketing, sales, and support efforts, as well.

Our tech stack includes Node.js, React, PostgreSQL, AWS, and Tailwind. We use both JavaScript and TypeScript heavily.

We’re a small startup team consisting of fewer than ten people. Successful team members are comfortable participating in spirited and detailed debates to establish product and technical plans, and then taking initiative and ownership to deliver on those plans quickly and effectively. Our team is collaborative. You can expect to meet with the team on a daily basis, pair regularly, and participate in slack discussions throughout the day. We keep pacific work hours and expect the team to be available during 9a-5p at a minimum. If you’re looking for a team where you can carve out your area of responsibility, work with experienced partners who have your back, grow your role alongside the growth of the company, and take a product to the moon, then we should talk.

To apply, please email kyle@snoutplans.com.

Our typical process is a one hour technical interview followed by a casual 30 minute meeting with our whole team.


To make sure I understand your business, your software allows vets to offer subscription packages to customers and you handle the recurring payment processing etc?


Snout https://www.snoutplans.com/ | Senior Software Engineer | Remote US | Full Time | $120k + equity and benefits

Join us at Snout on our mission to ensure no one ever has to make a health decision for their pet based on the cash in their back account. Snout plans pay for 100% of routine veterinary care, unlimited visits, and additional member benefits - think pet insurance, that you will actually use every year.

You will be working on our core wellness product, launched late-2022. Work includes the addition of new wellness plan features and capabilities, enhancement of user experience, testing and operation of the wellness platform, and special projects that arise from time to time. We frequently work cross-functionally and you can expect to write code and perform technical operations for our marketing, sales, and support efforts, as well.

Our tech stack includes Node.js, React, PostgreSQL, AWS, and Tailwind. We use both JavaScript and TypeScript heavily.

We’re a small startup team consisting of fewer than ten people. Successful team members are comfortable participating in spirited and detailed debates to establish product and technical plans, and then taking initiative and ownership to deliver on those plans quickly and effectively. Our team is collaborative. You can expect to meet with the team on a daily basis, pair regularly, and participate in slack discussions throughout the day. We keep pacific work hours and expect the team to be available during 9a-5p at a minimum. If you’re looking for a team where you can carve out your area of responsibility, work with experienced partners who have your back, grow your role alongside the growth of the company, and take a product to the moon, then we should talk.

To apply, please email kyle@snoutplans.com.

Our typical process is a one hour technical interview followed by a casual 30 minute meeting with our whole team.


Snout https://www.snoutplans.com/ | Senior Software Engineer | Remote US | Full Time | $120k + equity and benefits

Join us at Snout on our mission to ensure no one ever has to make a health decision for their pet based on the cash in their back account. Snout plans pay for 100% of routine veterinary care, unlimited visits, and additional member benefits - think pet insurance, that you will actually use every year.

You will be working on our core wellness product, launched late-2022. Work includes the addition of new wellness plan features and capabilities, enhancement of user experience, testing and operation of the wellness platform, and special projects that arise from time to time. We frequently work cross-functionally and you can expect to write code and perform technical operations for our marketing, sales, and support efforts, as well.

Our tech stack includes Node.js, React, PostgreSQL, AWS, and Tailwind. We use both JavaScript and TypeScript heavily.

We’re a small startup team consisting of fewer than ten people. Successful team members are comfortable participating in spirited and detailed debates to establish product and technical plans, and then taking initiative and ownership to deliver on those plans quickly and effectively. Our team is collaborative. You can expect to meet with the team on a daily basis, pair regularly, and participate in slack discussions throughout the day. We keep pacific work hours and expect the team to be available during 9a-5p at a minimum. If you’re looking for a team where you can carve out your area of responsibility, work with experienced partners who have your back, grow your role alongside the growth of the company, and take a product to the moon, then we should talk.

To apply, please email kyle@snoutplans.com.

Our typical process is a one hour technical interview followed by a casual 30 minute meeting with our whole team.


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