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It's part of the Business tier on the pricing page here: https://plane.so/pricing


$$$$ Very expensive


from Google: "Atlassian has sunsetted its Server product line, including Jira Server, meaning they are no longer supported and users need to migrate to Cloud or Data Center versions. Specifically, support for Atlassian Server products ended on February 15, 2024. This includes the end of new license sales, renewals, and security updates for Jira Server. "


There's the self-hosted Atlassian Data Center product.

https://www.atlassian.com/enterprise/data-center

They also offer Government Cloud.

https://www.atlassian.com/government


You'll pay through your nose for a Data Center license though, and it doesn't change the fact that Jira is a mess so slow that SAP can appear fast in comparison.


Data center version is available. I use it.


Big fan of Plane since it's open-core.

Doesn't seem to be a lot of options for self-hosted/open-core project management software. The existing ones looks pretty bad, and don't come anywhere close to Jira level functionality.


> don't come anywhere close to Jira level functionality.

In my experience that's probably a good thing. I've moved from a company using Phabricator to one using Jira. Phabricator had exactly everything we needed and was very nicely designed and worked really nicely.

Jira has everything you need plus loads of other stuff that project managers feel like they need to add. Oh and they'll never clear anything up or fix any config bugs because they don't actually have to ever use the "report bug" form so who cares if there are 100 fields and half of the mandatory ones are hidden in "More fields"? 5 different states for "TODO"? Eh who cares. 3 different ways to say which team a bug is in? Better fill them all in for every bug.

It's better to be missing features than to have features that project managers can configure.


I've used both as well, I found Phabricator fine for lightweight kanban-style team work tracking, but once we had PMs it was doomed because it would never do what they wanted (they didn't seem to be able to understand that it was not a Scrum system and would never match well).

These days I'd be using Github instead, issues there are also nice and simple. I imagine it would ultimately suffer the same fate in a similar situation though (not that I intend to get there ever again).

The problem with Jira is that it's so customisable and always ends up being customised by "process people" who think all problems can be solved by adding just one more field - but simultaneously it's never possible to customise your bit to work the way you want.


The first bug you should log is that the bug logging page has unnecessary fields.


Redmine is awesome


Really cool, definitely donating to a few products!


Try buying food that isn't stored in plastics, worse yet, the supply chain before you get the food probably uses plastics between the various components. Seems like such a hard problem to solve.


Plastic is used intensively to make the food too. This is a sea of plastic in Spain used for growing. https://vertical-farming.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/alme...

Plastic stops weeds, stops birds, is the skin of greenhouses - every step of growing seems to involve another damn square kilometer of plastic. A lot of it just degrades in to microplastics in the soil, too.

(My wife and I did a market-garden type smallholding for a while and it's damn near impossible to get away from plastic)


One of the ironies is that organic agriculture has increased plastics use dramatically in farming.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/06/07/729783773/or...


As far as I can tell, organic is mostly a mechanism to price discriminate produce and animal products. If you label one organic, then some people will be willing to pay more for it.


That might be more true of other certifications like Fair Trade.

Whether you agree with the mission of organic agriculture or not, getting certified for it does come with a lot of expensive extra rules.


I don’t know about other countries, but considering the US cannot even be bothered to continuously perform surprise inspections of the quality of medicines or medicinal manufacturing facilities, or vitamins, I have zero faith in any of those labels, especially from places where the US has no jurisdiction and hence no possibility of consequences.

For all I know, the nicer looking produce gets slapped with an organic label and the less nice doesn’t, creating a visual illusion at the store. This is all ignoring the fact that there is no conclusive proof of “organic” being nutritionally superior.

People like the story of being “in the know” or “beating the system”, hence the utility of these labels. Another one I like is “A2 milk”.


Honestly though - what's the point? It seems that everything is contaminated whether or not it ever touched plastic in its lifetime.


The process of fine-tuning open source LLMs has become incredibly easy, we'll walk you through it


I have this book, my son loves it. Also nice for adults, since you'll re-read it 100 times.


+1, Spring is the real test, every winter prices go down


The beginning of the undoing of globalization, countries will start bringing industries back home with bills like this.


This is the 23rd year in a row that people have been saying this, at the rate we're going, globalization will be undone any minute now.

This is just a taxpayer gift to multinationals. If you want to undo globalization, handouts aren't the solution, tariffs are.


Globalization is here to stay. The economics are just too sweet to “go back”.


I think so as well, in particular I believe that countries with a large population of young will be the biggest beneficiaries of companies exiting China.

It's going to take some time to get back to scale but I believe India, Vietnam, Southeast Asia stands to be the biggest winners.

I do not see China returning to status quo anytime soon. It's more likely that they will fall victim to nationalistic fervor and close its doors.


No, I don’t think so. The last few years have been no more than a speed bump in the 100 year trend of increased global interconnection.


"Global interconnection" is not the same thing as "globalization". In many ways they're actually opposed. With globalization comes increased strength of patent and copyright laws and much more control over what crosses what borders

There's a direct relationship between international trade agreements and border security


So, your position is that this century long trend of globalization is over and all systemic mechanism that enable it will somehow, someway, cease. Or, what exactly? What is your position? Because, if for example, the crisis in Ukraine has shown, countries need more diversification, not less.


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