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> much like telling someone "please die" is very very different from attempted manslaughter

Telling someone, yes, giving instructions you know will be following by a tool some people are using, no. He is expressly and intentionally giving destructive commands to certain users that will be followed.


> Today, leaving at 5pm means risking PIP and not having an income;

This is Germany, not the USA. Shit doesn't work like that here.


It also doesn't work like this in all job domains in the US. These hyper-competitive FANGlike employers are meat grinders. You can live well enough on a modest wage a few hundred miles away in the Central Valley working for a public institution with a pension. It still exists even it's less so than it was 30 or 40 years ago.

> Of course, the "cruel" part is how it affects those who either can't have children, are gay, etc.

Adoption. At least that was the choice one of the gay couples I know made.


Does it matter that "it's the leading reason cited" if it's further questioning shows it not to be true?

I've heard it many many times from many different people, and not once has it been the actual reason.


I prefer the results of studies to the anecdotes of some people you know.

Adoption.

Our experiences differ, it's no myth over here.

That's like saying "It took me a month to hand-make this cupboard. If someone made a cupboard in just one day using a machine, do you think I'd trust it?".

Only you can prevent tangential arguments about analogies.

Took me a while to understand what you meant by this, and I hope I got it right: If I use a simile or analogie, people will argue about that instead of my point?

Possibly, but my simile was strong enough to be an example. In fact, it's something that happened (still happens to some extent) in carpentry. Note well the absense of any argument against it, but the downvoting.


you totally missed the point; it's like:

"thousands of people have bought, used and reviewed this hand-made cupboard over the past 10 years, so I can trust that it's good"

vs

"no one has used this cupboard that was made in one day, so I have no idea whether it's good or not"

call me back in a couple of years and we'll talk


pip install pulls in what I've listed in my package list, plus their dependencies which are at most 2 levels deep. The dependency's dependencies are reviewable.

npm install pulls in my dependencies plus god knows what else at god knows how many levels. 500MB of dependencies? The dependency's dependecies are not reviewable.

I wish people would stop trying to compare NPM to PyPi and others. NPM is an unfixable disaster because of the entire mindset and ecosystem around JavaScript.


Somebody posted today about getting 3-4 pip top-level deps, and they brought in around 400 packages. That's not exactly that different.

I have, so who's right?

Disallowing copying and sharing of art is a recent development in human history, not the norm.

The normal distribution of music and stories was for others to repeat them, and only recently have we decided it's illegal. I understand that things are different now, and people make a living off of art, but at the same time I find it difficult to care too much for someone who chose to make their hobby their job and refuses to adapt when things change.


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