> They don't want 100 apps that do the exact same thing.
I read it as the "insane" part parent is pointing at.
It's nothing new, has been going on basically since the existence of the App store and Apple has explicitly built their whole business to put themselves as the arbiter of who gets to have their app on people's phones.
Still it's healthy that from times to time we stop and shout "that whole situation is insane" (short of finding a way to actually do something about it)
I hope you try Nobie out. We've put a lot of effort into making sure its a great experience.
We're a native app, so you should expect a reasonable app size, 120fps, fast (correct) calcs, all the keyboard shortcuts from Excel, and a pretty UI.
If you're an LLM person, we ship a pretty good MCP, so you can just tell claude/codex to work on the file, and it'll open nobie and update it in front of you (if you use our embedded terminal, you get fancy hooks and context injection from the workbook to make the LLMs smarter, otherwise we have tools that provide some useful context to agents)
I have to agree on fable being in another league. I’ve given it my most challenging problems and almost always comes back with a functional, solution 2-5 prompts away from a finished pr. Literally smashed our backlog - very impressed. What i found most efficient is to add “use sonnet agents for research” gets you really far, and on large not so novel tasks “use opus for tasks” by adding this it spins up many agents, works for 2+ hours in a usage window and completes A LOT of work.
yeah, he seems to have the same issue a lot of these guys have. i’m convinced we’re going to find out at some point they’re all on some kind of modern meth type drug that entirely breaks their reality. the similarities between so many of their shifts are too striking.
Indeed. With Lowdefy we really try to go to great effort to abstract away the plumbing. We're very pleased with how simple the config surface is for these Agents.
Sure. We've been building Lowdefy since 2020, we use it as the web framework for all our consulting customers at https://resonancy.io , where we build back office software for businesses.
We've built all kinds of internal tools using Lowdefy, CRMs, reporting apps, ticketing systems, workflow, SOP and QC tools, call centre automation tools, customer portals, survey apps and more.
We find that having a well define abstraction framework in place helps us scale our custom apps really efficiently, particularly from a maintenance pov. Also sharing work across our team, etc. It helps if everything is pluggable, and well documented. By making Lowdefy open-source it has helped our team maintain the discipline to enforce best practices across our stack.
Lowdefy is very declarative, and it lets you build data intensive web apps in just a few lines of yaml. With AI code gen, this is where the power of the framework guard rails and generated apps really accelerate the apps we can create while following the same patterns that our team applies over all the solutions we build.
As for change in direction, no. We have a demand for building agentic experiences from our customers, and found that we could wrap it really nicely into the Lowdefy framework, especially when building in additional functionality like agents co-authoring web forms and more.
We feel that agents inside your apps is a great fit, since you can expose the same api routes, auth roles and more to agents with ease.
That makes complete sense, now I get the angle. They are just another layer of apps that can be abstracted after all.
Did you try to also support OpenClaw/PicoClaw etc? Maybe OpenFang? I've found that since OpenFang is so different to the other harnesses its hard to share the same abstraction layer
Well done on the launch! We’ve doubled down on the apps as YAML paradigm a few years ago and its pay great dividends on all fronts, esp now with code gen spinning out apps faster than ever for us (generated yaml). Our largest app is well over 500k lines of yaml - for those complaining about 1000 lines lol. With the right tool stack and conventions its so much easier to read, write. review and maintain.
Shameless plug, we’ve built Lowdefy (open source) and 100s of dashboards using it. Have a look and keen to unpack if you’re interested in sharing experiences. Specially have a look at what we did with operators for dynamic needs.
https://github.com/lowdefy/lowdefy
Well done on this milestone! Gave zed a decent chance last week and it wins on many fronts to replace my now scattered setup.
1. For me to use it I need to apply prettier formatting of the current project (maybe there is a way? i could not find it)
2. I need to run the claude cli, not an agent interface. or allow me to place the terminal on the left in the agent view or something.
for the everything else it was a win. will give it another chance in a month or three to see if it can do, excited to have a setup that easily navigates code diffs.
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