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For me it's kind of weird right it's like no one can see the bigger picture. All technology's going to be eaten by AI so companies like Google, Microsoft, Meta ... are middle men in an industry that's disappearing. No one's really going to use a search engine when a chat bot can do a better job. No one is going to pay for software when the AI can do the whole process better at a proper command. All technology and the companies in it are essentially horses and the related roles in a time of cars. That whole slice of the economy is at best going to reduce year on year eventually to disappear. No replacement AI is it.

The chat bot will still use the search engine

I don't think it's by choice just ask all those extinct manufacturers

It was a choice, western oligarchs handed China the means of production on a silver platter in the pursuit of short term profits.

And even that wasn't anything new. They did the same with Japan and then Taiwan. Remember when made in Japan was a joke, then made in Taiwan?

Now Japan is known for quality electronics and options and Taiwan for state of the art semiconductors.


Maybe new companies can spring up and be competitive with AI assisted design. Im assuming the cost was too high for those old companies to survive right? Small nimble companies could theoretically compete in some segments vs large bloated slobs (even if they have AI as well). This is all just hypothetical thought.

People can't see the exponential. That is why they think there is time. There is no time. Current play goes like this double the size of the stock market asap think trillion dollar new companies. Increase revenue through increased capital gains. Hope that this works before a forced default.

Because there are so many different jobs all over the place. Job boards are full of people crying out for help. Every morning I wake up to a literal sea of emails from hiring managers looking for my aid. I only choose those jobs that look interesting and only work with the people who pay and treat me well. /s


Sun is white light. Wonder what that means. Brightest object in out awareness is modeled as clean white. Or is this the actual basic color.


There are no objective "basic colors". What "white" means is "excites our different types of photoreceptors roughly equally". And the photoreceptors have the sensitivity curves that they do because of our sun’s surface temperature and a convenient "window" in the opacity of our atmosphere. Organisms evolved under a different star, within a different atmosphere would have a different idea of what a "neutral" color is.

(Because of additional processing done by our visual system, what looks "white" to us is very dependent on the color of the ambient light. But the ~5800 K blackbody spectrum could be called the "most neutral" white to our eyes because that’s what evolution has optimized them for.)


Sure, the sun is white, more or less (cf comments re human perception and what "white" really means).

But when did humans first perceive the sun as white? We can only reliably say "sometime on or after 12 April 1961", the day Gagarin went into space. Prior to that, as far as we know, all humans saw the sun as some other colour, most often yellow or red, depending on the time of day.

Since Newton's prism, we had pretty good reason for believing it was likely white, reasons that got stronger in the 19th C with improved theories of optics, the discovery of atomic spectra, etc. I'm curious to know when we confirmed for sure its whiteness, and whether this was before October 1957 (Sputnik) or after Gagarin or somewhere in between.


The direct light from the Sun is yellowish, because the blue light of the sky is subtracted from it.

If the sky is covered with clouds, then the light is white, because the blue sky light is mixed again with the direct Sun light.

If the sky is clear and there is an unobstructed view of it, the light reflected by a white object will be the sum of the light coming from the sky to the object and directly from the Sun to the object, so it will be white. For example this is true for white clouds and white snow.

This, i.e. that the Sun outside the atmosphere is perfectly white, has been understood for a long time, since the 19th century.


Your last paragraph is pretty much what I said. The sun being white is a recent development in human knowledge, and our recent and very good theory was only confirmed empirically very recently indeed.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-body_radiation As objects get hotter and start glowing, they start to emit radiation in visible frequencies. Very hot objects keep glowing in the redder parts as they also start to glow in higher bands. Our eyes collect all the various frequencies at different intensities and experience them as one color. The second diagram on the page, with the chromaticity of different temperatures of ideal black-body radiators, shows the color that we perceive as the temperature of the glowing object goes up. The sun is around 5800k, so a little bit in in the yellow-green direction from perfectly balanced color response.

If you want to know why that diagram has its white point where it is, it's based on testing a bunch of people in laboratories. It's fairly predictable and repeatable, but it might not match your experience outdoors.


>> it might not match your experience outdoors

My wife and I had an interesting experience a while back where we walked outside our house mid-morning and everything was tinted an intense bizarro green. This was in New England just over two decades ago, and we think it was due to some extensive forest fires that had been burning in Canada and the airborne ash was somehow filtering specific wavelengths of sunlight.


The vision system has evolved to consider as white the average color of the environment.

In terrestrial environments, the average color is typically not much different from the true color of the Sun. The white light of the Sun is split by the atmosphere into the bluish light of the sky and the yellowish direct light, then those are reflected and diffused by various bodies until being collected by an eye or a photographic camera.

If the bodies in the environment are random enough, i.e. there are similar amounts of those which absorb or diffuse different parts of the spectrum (e.g. the environment includes brown earth, green plants, blue sky, variously colored flowers and fruits, etc.), then the average color of the light that reaches the photoreceptors will not differ much from the color of the original source of light, i.e. the Sun as seen from outside the atmosphere.


It's a convention. And at one time it was useful as the thing that could be replicated anywhere.

Also, things that are white can be judged by the amount of light they reflect or scatter as a percentage, independent of the source of illumination. For instance, among familiar objects, a common white ceramic bathroom tile comes pretty close to pure white.

Also, a thing can't be "whiter than white" in nature unless it's fluorescent. So it represents a kind of limiting case that people can agree upon.


White light is that which is perceived as white, which means light sources whose color approximates a black body like the Sun.


I am sure if these guys worked on it they could have better PR. It is like AI is the modern version of the oil industry.


Is that ever the case I think we believe in it as an ideal but never see it. For instance a doctor in Pakistan that moves to the usa and ends up driving a taxi.


The light from the sun is white so with all these anomalies would the color of this light not change even slightly.


This information is about the nature of skin pores on an elephant. The elephant is still a big gray animal.

Different levels of observation.


Is it just me or is this a pervasive pattern in hackernews... Someone makes a point then someone makes a contrary point and the conversation spirals off with nothing to do with the original post or concepts. I particularly notice this in more controversial posts on politics.


Does it not end. Like is there not a point with all this speedups and infinite intelligence that your software system is essentially done.


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