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"Manufacture as many paperclips as possible"

Y'all are missing the point: It's probably less than 100 hours to learn the foundations of one of humanity's most-current breakthroughs. It's a disservice to any young hacker to not learn it. Here's your curriculum. Watch these:

-- 3Blue 1Brown's Neural Network Series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZHQObOWTQDNU6R1_6700...

-- Karpathy on LLMs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xTGNNLPyMI

-- Stanford CS336: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuoVZkPBiKk

Then do this hands-on:

-- Karpathy's zero-to-hero: https://karpathy.ai/zero-to-hero.html


Maybe. As the nature of assistive tools changes, so does pedagogy. Calculators are the easy example since most of us are (still) familiar. But there are others that were just as pronounced -- e.g. log tables and slide rules were transformational and instrumental at one time, and you've (probably) never used them. If you had used slide rules to solve your homework problems then were excluded from using them on exams, you'd see a similar effect.

AI is a big change; pedagogy is going to change too.


> As the nature of assistive tools changes

I mean, does it? The way I see it, the best LLMs have to offer is infinite patience (until they inevitably and unpredictably start to confabulate, which should be a gigantic red flag, anyhow), I don't see how LLMs can be used to explore teaching paradigms that haven't been explored before. We know pretty well from centuries of empirical experimentation how children's brains develop under different stimuli. It's not exactly something the software industry needed to "hack".


"Does it?" - Yes? Did you learn arithmetic with log & exponent tables, or just calculators?

That's not answering my question, what precisely do LLM enable in ways of educating children that hasn't been thoroughly studied before? What role do you want to give chatbots in the complex framework of child brain development? How do you back it up?

> So why are ai companies shredding books

Because a cartoon mouse's parent company used regulatory capture to extend copyright for decades.


> And lets not even talk, the lack of compliance in an enterprise environment, and as they defer to providers on that...

A middleman that adds compliance & regulation while skimming a slice off the top for themselves: You just described credit cards - stripe's core business...


How is the middleman going to add compliance if its not the provider of the LLMs? And if that was possible OpenRouter would have done it already...


Very much the same line of business as Amazon Bedrock except OpenRouter gives more options (choice of where hosted, data retention options and so on).


>> choice of where hosted,

You dont understand Bedrock fundamental use case.


Yeah I do. You can get data locality in GovCloud, a U.S. data centre, or even EU regions.

It’s governed by your master AWS agreement (which will make your compliance officer happy), and billing is also conveniently handled by AWS.

Of course the Chinese models on it are rotten old and not cheap. But if you want to configure an app to use inference that is entirely controlled, it’s the next best thing to running local.


Most important...

- Your inputs are within the security boundary of your AWS account or AWS accounts

  Can OpenRouter say the same? - NO
- Your inputs are not shared with models creators

   Can OpenRouter say the same? - NO
- Your inputs are not used to train the next model

   Can OpenRouter say the same? - NO
- Within certain limits and certain models:

   "50.10.1. Subject to the limitations in this Section 50.10, AWS will defend you and your employees, officers, and directors against any third-party claim alleging that the Generative AI Output generated by an Indemnified Generative AI Service infringes or misappropriates that third party’s intellectual property rights, and will pay the amount of any adverse final judgment or settlement."

  Can OpenRouter say the same? - NO


> Within certain limits and certain models

For those that hadn't read yet (on https://aws.amazon.com/service-terms/):

"Certain models" means "only AWS's own trained models" (Nova etc), so not e.g. Bedrock Claude or GPT.

"Certain limits" means they don't defent if the input to the model is the IP.


Yet another reason to support open-weight alternatives, I guess.


Why do you feel the need to deceive readers on whether your content is AI generated?


Why do you feel the need to label the content when the quality of the content will speak for itself?

It doesn't matter where the content comes from, only the quality/usefulness matters. If you are opposed to this idea, the next decades are going to be very tough for you :)


If the "author" can't be fucked writing their own work I don't want to be fucked reading even the couple paragraphs it takes to be offput by clanker slop.

> It doesn't matter where the content comes from

It absolutely matters to a lot of people. Things like these just provide transparency and allow people to have the necessary information to make their own decisions.


Not sure I understand your implication... because I'm the primary consumer of the content AI generates for me. I'd rather not have its output adulterated.


These are magic black boxes whose content gets constantly adulterated with no input from you.

Models from openAI had instructions in their system prompt not to talk about gremlins and goblins. Anthropic got caught acting different if you're Chinese. Grok got its Nazi dialed turned to 11 until it started calling itself Mechahitler cause Musk found it too left leaning on Twitter.


Why is it deception if you never claimed it was unassisted? The assumption now is that most text produced is already assisted by an AI to some extent.


If you have no problem with your AI content being labeled as AI content then a watermark that does exactly that is totally fine with you, no?


yes, which is why Apple got massively fined for doing it -- nowhere near enough to compensate all the depressed engineering salaries though.


This is (probably) a natural evolution of Garry's gbrain, a basic RAG for individual use. Gbrain is super useful as a starting point for an individual; this seems like an extension to a company.

I've found gbrain to be very effective with meetily (instead of granola), vikunja for project planning, various mcp for email, etc. It's nice not being locked in to vendors and models...

Thanks for making this OSS too.


"...and that's a good thing."


Does basic photoshop count as AI usage...? What about changing color balance, dynamic range, etc?


Most real estate listing using a type of "HDR" exposure stacking due to the difficulty in taking photos of rooms that exposure the interior correctly and also expose the view from the windows in the same photo. It doesn't show things that aren't there, and personally I see it as acceptable, but I could see some law accidentally making it illegal.


Obviously not, though they may count as misleading image manipulation, and should be similarly regulated. The problem is subjectivity - AI is just a convenient bright line with an easy definition.


I'm not sure the line defining what you would consider AI is actually all that bright. Sharpening? Content-aware fill? Seam carving? Style transfer? How would you define AI to draw the line where you want?


You want the government to monitor people's profiles on dating apps? The ministry of dating photos


Making murder illegal doesn't imply that the government stalks you 24/7 to make sure you don't murder someone


Not every comment on the internet is 100% serious


In this context the opposite would be called "trolling" and is not allowed on HN.


That is not even close to trolling. It's called a joke where you exaggerate the premise because it's an amusing thought.


Oi, you got a loicense for that f-stop slop?


I'm sure soon enough dating apps will get smart and instead of the "you have no matches" they will make some fake AI matches so you have a feeling that something is happening and you have a chance of actually meeting someone.


don't they already do that? They used to use real people's photos from other apps. I'm sure they use AI now.


No but we used to call that “photoshopping an image” for a reason, especially when done to an extreme.


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