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How the data is used and the scrape frequency are also factors.

Google won't bombard your site with requests and at worst will cache data but not try to make use of it.


This is good until the ASICS come in force and make mining in the browser useless.


This is the Betanet. We will not use sha256 as in our Mainnet. We are already working on a WebAssembly implementation of a memory hard ASIC resistant POW.


Thanks, but while ASICs may not be a threat, in general finely tuned beefy machines might be? So that running this in a browser would be as efficient as mining litecoin in a browser?


It's not entirely ethical because the advertiser gets ripped off. It increases their cost and reduces what they are prepared to pay for ads. If everyone else used it, content creators wouldn't get paid eventually. If YouTube was independent from Google it would die.


Thanks for the comment here. I spent some time thinking about this topic. I've done a write up here if you are interested - http://blog.spartakode.com/an-ad-skipper-for-youtube-that-pa...

The argument can be summarized as:

1. Skipping ads quickly on every chance you get means you are watching the video for "free". Which isn't fair to the creator

2. Not skipping ads in order to support the creator isn't great for advertisers either.

3. That said, Google is moving towards deprecating 30 second unskippable ads (unskippable ads will have to be 15-20 seconds or less). This means that users in general view ads longer than 20 seconds to be intrusive which means that the majority of people are likely skipping ads unless they are really compelling.

4. It's an unfortunate situation to be in but I choose to side with the content creators since ultimately they drive the whole site. YouTube ads should in the future normalise towards the better format of 15 seconds or less and most of them will become unskippable. This will happen regardless of this extension especially given that the majority of their traffic will come from mobile anyway.

5. Thus in the practical view of things, this chrome extension is likely to be used by a maximum of 1000 users (being extremely generous here). The market says that people just want to skip 5 seconds in. Not be ethical. And so I resolve the ethics conundrum within myself by accepting that this isn't likely to affect the YouTube eco system as a whole negatively, but it will at the very least, play a tiny part in contributing to the creators well being over time.

Last note: I really love YouTube Red. I broke borders using my VPN to get it but the hassle of having to keep the VPN going to use it especially on the mobile is a problem. Also I'm scared that YouTube will ban my entire Google account for breaking ToS so I stopped. The day they make it available globally, I'll be a happy person with a credit card at the ready :).


Cousin of fork bomb?


Tldr; Free market and Darwinism. Move on.


I don't think the people living on the streets are tech workers. Can't telecommute janitorial work.


A reasoned response is a red flag?


Please don't post unsubstantive comments here, and especially not trollish provocations on an already divisive topic.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14492198 and marked it off-topic.


"Colorblind" beliefs cover up racism and hurt the people who experience it by refusing to acknowledge what is actually happening to them: https://www.jstor.org/stable/41675099?seq=1#page_scan_tab_co... If people can't entertain the well-supported fact that individual's experiences differ on the basis of how they are perceived, they end up supporting the discriminatory status quo.

This is similar to how telling people an organization is a meritocracy leads to more discrimination against women: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2189/asqu.2010.55.4.5...


If you have a workplace where women and minorities cannot discuss their issues without a white man butting in to whine "but what about meee?" then yes, that is a toxic work environment.


The implication/undertone of most of the diversity discussions is that minorities and women have worse experiences than white men. The discussions are centered around women/minority experiences compared to those of white men, without allowing white men to share their experiences for actual comparison.

Just like the white man doesn't know what it is like to be a woman or a minority, the minorities and women don't know what it is like to be a white man.

Getting to the truth (finding out the severity of mistreatment/inequality, if there is any) and fostering understanding between both sides would be for the good of society. This would involve listening to both experiences.


So "not a minority" means you're a white man?


Not necessarily. Deaf, blind, dwarfs, old (e.g. 70), very young (e.g. 16), single fathers and amputees would all be minorities that could apply to white males.


That's a good point but need to be careful not to conflate racist issues with general shit place to work issues.


... aaand there are people all over this discussion changing the original question into general shit place to work issues. So much for answering the question and keeping the discussion focused.


> If you can't make a convincing case that you're in that top category of engineer, then what has working for Google earned you these past few years?

So are you suggesting that the 95% of people who are not to engineers are just waiting their time?


Maybe it's more along the lines of having become a "Google-idiot". Expert at using internal Google systems, or maybe even just a small subset of them, worse as a general engineer than when they started.


I checked your profile expecting another damn SF company and pleasantly surprised you are in Woollahra. Go Sydney!


Yes Woollahra is a rather nice place to run a company like mine :)


Hence "small", which I took to mean "amount you can afford to lose"


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