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Reading the "Going forward" section I see that they have zero understanding of the main complaints.


How so?


They feel they're in a position to make important trade-off decisions on behalf of the user. "It's just slightly worse, I'll sneak this change in" is not something to be tolerated, whether it actually turns out to be much worse or not. Their adaptive thinking mess has caused a ton of work for me. I know a lot of people are saying Codex is actually better now. I don't agree but I'm switching to it because it's much more reliable.


I agree, but these LLM products are all black-boxes so we need to demand more accountability from them.


Same for me. It jumped to 11% on the first prompt and now increasing steadily. I think I will hit the limits without seeing a hi-fi version.


> * Turn on max thinking on every session. It save tokens overall because I’m not correcting it of having it waste energy on dead paths.

This is definitely true. Ever since I realized there is an /effort max option I am no longer fighting it that much and wasting hours.


> Even if readers didn’t make it all the way to the ends of the papers, they would have encountered red flags early on, such as statements that “this entire paper is made up” and “Fifty made-up individuals aged between 20 and 50 years were recruited for the exposure group”.

> What is the recommendation here? Should the agent take everything published in a skeptical way?

Not everything. Maybe some things that are explicitly called made-up.


I agree, but again - LLMs are trained to be more forgiving of things published in places that had a good reputation. There are two options

1. even if an article is published in a place with good reputation, the LLM will be equally skeptical and use test time compute to process it further

2. accept the tradeoff where LLM will by default accept things published in high reputation sources as true so that it doesn't waste processing power but might miss edge cases like this one

Which one would you prefer?



that's an imported PR, presumably from github. Note how the copilot comments come from the same user as the author, with an `imported` tag.


I stand corrected. GitHub team confirmed it's their Copilot ad.


These seem misleading. Cowork's VM is not on Anthropic servers?

> Local file access >> Relay: Truly local >> Cowork: Sandboxed VM on Anthropic's servers

> The bottom line: Claude Cowork is excellent for personal productivity on Anthropic's cloud. Relay is for teams and companies that need data sovereignty, compliance-ready audit trails, and model freedom — all on their own infrastructure.


You're right, that part is a bit confusing. I'll have to fix it.

I'm not entirely sure what Cowork means by “sandboxed VM” right now. Relay simply has access to the folder you've defined for the project.


More related drama: The Slow Collapse of MkDocs (https://fpgmaas.com/blog/collapse-of-mkdocs/)


>thread to call out Read the Docs for profiting from MkDocs without contributing back.

>They also point out that not opening up the source code goes against the principles of Open Source software development

I will never stop being amused when people have feelings like this and also choose licenses like BSD (this project). If you wanted a culture that discouraged those behaviors, why would you choose a license that explicitly allows them? Whether you can enforce it or not, the license is basically a type of CoC that states the type of community you want to have.


The reason is simple: they'd like to reap all the benefits of a permissive licence (many people and companies won't or can't touch GPL code), without any of the downsides; but these downsides are the very reason behind the rules in more 'restrictive' licenses like the GPL.

This usually doesn't work, and in the end all they can do is complain about behaviours that their license choice explicitly allowed.


Yes I agree completely. I am baffled why they choose that license in the first place. It just seems to engender drama when people actually follow the license they've chosen! Perhaps open source is actually powered by drama, where developers have more meaning from the drama they create than the actual things they create?


Oh i recognised one of the involved people immediately, drama person.

I still think that hijacking the mkdocs package was the wrong way to go though.

The foss landscape has become way too much fork-phobic.

Just fork mkdocs and go over your merry way.


Right, my suspicion was correct. When I interacted with them a few years ago they seemed perfectly nice and friendly, but seem to have gone off the rails more recently. It's an uncomfortable situation and I've a feeling people are afraid to discuss this kind of thing but we really need to. People are a risk factor in software projects and we need to be resilient to changes they face. Forking is the right way, but places like GitHub have sold people on centralisation. We need to get back to decentralised dev.


> but places like GitHub have sold people on centralisation. We need to get back to decentralised dev.

I don’t think that’s the case. It’s more of a marketing/market incentive. It’s great pr to be associated with the most famous project, way less so to be associated with a fork, at least until the fork becomes widespread and well recognised.

GitHub does make it fairly easy to fork a project, I wouldn’t blame the situation on github.


Just look at how much of the drama is caused by who "owns" the repository. In a decentralised model, which git perfectly supports, everybody owns their own branch(es). But all the issues etc. are stuck on the GitHub project.


> In a decentralised model, which git perfectly supports, everybody owns their own branch(es). But all the issues etc. are stuck on the GitHub project.

yeah i'm gonna call BS on this. this kind of drama already existed when communities were "decentralised" and each one had its own forum, mailing list or whatever.

the core of the issue here is about wanting to be the owner of a repository.

so people should just not bother with being owner of a specific repository, but just fork it and move on. and github supports forking sufficiently well for this purpose.


There are two main problems with "just fork" on GitHub and other forges:

1. Issues, PRs, discussions etc don't move over,

2. Discovery. When GitHub was in its infancy they made a big deal out of the "network" feature. Almost 20 years later it has languished, virtually unchanged in that entire time. When I think of decentralisation I think Bitcoin. We need a better way to "discover" the consensus fork. I feel like GitHub could do a lot to help, but they don't care.


Who are they?


As far as I can tell, the following names all refer to the same person:

- lovelydinosaur,

- Mia Kimberly Christie

- Kim (Christie)

- Tom Christie


Drama around Starlette. Drama around httpx. Drama around MkDocs. I just hope that DRF is not next, I still have some projects that depend on it.


Per TFA, there’s similarly-shaped low-key drama around DRF too[1] although issues and discussions have been reënabled since then.

[1] https://github.com/orgs/encode/discussions/11#discussioncomm...


What's the drama around starlette? (Can't find anything)



I think that may be the first time I've seen licensing drama over something as minor as adding another author to the copyright list.

Pretty sure those are completely standard for major changes in maintainers/hostile forks/acknowledging major contributors. I've seen a lot of abandoned MIT/BSD projects add a new line for forks/maintainers being active again in order to acknowledge that the project is currently being headed by someone else.

From my "I am not a lawyer" view, Kludex is basically correct, although I suppose to do it "properly", he might need to just duplicate the license text in order to make it clear both contributors licensed under BSD 3-clause. Probably unnecessary though, given it's not a license switch (you see that style more for ie. switching from MIT to BSD or from MIT/BSD to GPL, since that's a more substantial change); the intent of the license remains the same regardless and it's hard to imagine anyone would get confused.

I suspect (given the hammering on it in responses), that Kludex asking ChatGPT if it was correct is what actually pissed off the original developer, rather than the addition of Kludex to the list in and of itself.


(Not a lawyer either but—)

The original author said they were “the license holder”, specifically with a “the”, in discussions around both Starlette and MkDocs, which yes, just isn’t true even after rounding the phrase to the nearest meaningful, “the copyright holder”. This appears to be an honest misconception of theirs, so, not the end of the world, except they seem to be failing at communication hard enough to not realize they might be wrong to begin with.

Note though that with respect to Starlette this ended up being essentially a (successful and by all appearances not intentionally hostile?) project takeover, so the emotional weight of the drama should be measured with respect to that, not just an additional copyright line.


lovelydinosaur appears to be undergoing a mental health crisis. Besides the drama and lies, I notice they (I think they?) seemed to misname the maintainer on purpose. They did it in the first thread, which the maintainer tried to correct, and they misnamed him again in the second thread.

Mia Kimberly Christie seems like dangerous person.


This has been ongoing for some time. I’ve raised valid issues in several encode projects and received rude/dismissive comments from this individual. I’ve reviewed their recent interactions with others on GitHub and it’s obvious that Mia (tom?) is super toxic/drama seeking


They always were but it's clearly spiraling faster.


On one hand, that account of the attempted project takeover smelled to me like Jia Tan.

On the other hand, the comments the MkDocs author is making about perceived gender grievances feel so unhinged that I wouldn't be touching anything made by them with a barge pole.


> On one hand, that account of the attempted project takeover smelled to me like Jia Tan.

Oleh was basically the sole maintainer for many years, and the development basically stopped when he left.


Yes, I know you can be legit, but when you first contribute a few useful things, then jump to maintainership and want keys to the kingdom, the pattern looks similar (sans the last step which is embedding some backdoor). At least in how the article described it.


If this would be a tv show I probably would view it, but wow what a drama.


I don't know if I am just in an unlucky A/B assignment or anything but I really don't understand people juggling multiple agent sessions. For me Opus 4.6 High performance went from unbelievable to mediocre. And this keeps happening making the whole agentic coding very unreliable and frustrating. I do use it but I have to babysit and I get overwhelmed even with a single session.


It revolves around how Open AI has much better models and how Claude Code engineers are a bunch of kids (which is kind of ironic).


It is partly to blame, yes. This is from Claude’s official frontend skill:

“Motion: Use animations for effects and micro-interactions. Prioritize CSS-only solutions for HTML. Use Motion library for React when available. Focus on high-impact moments: one well-orchestrated page load with staggered reveals (animation-delay) creates more delight than scattered micro-interactions. Use scroll-triggering and hover states that surprise.”


Who thinks like this? The last thing I want on a website is surprise. I want to do what I came there to do, the same way it worked last time, and then get on with my day.


On a Web site or anywhere else. Apple, Microsoft, "flat design," and peek-a-boo UI all insult the user and waste his time by turning an important tool into an Advent calendar.


s/micro intentions/micro aggressions/


Replying to the wrong person and trying to replace a phrase that wasn't used. Bravo, you take the cake for low effort post.


I was replying to ggp. I did misread micro-interactions, but my point still stands.

“Eloquence is the essential thing in a speech, not information.”


> creates more delight

ARE YOU NOT DELIGHTED?


Beatings will continue until morale improves.


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