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I don't think most of those votes are about hating foreigners. Some people believe the story they get every day, that the country is broken and that immigrants are the problem.

I just don't understand this. It's not about hate or racism, it's about the speed of the change.

We've had too many immigrant, too fast. But since there's no brake on this thing apparently the only option normal politicians seems to have is to be dismissive of negative effects of mass migration so they don't have to admit there's no brake lever.

This then pushes people to a party that will at least admit the negative effects.


It was for me too but the new deepseek pricing is too good to ignore for now.

I honestly think that with my electricity prices running qwen 36B myself is more expensive than hitting the cache rate at deepseek.


Can you elaborate on DeepSeek (deepseek-v4-flash, i assume?). What does your typical usage pattern look like and what is your weekly/monthly spend?

I gave it a try for a few days (pi + openrouter + deepseek-v4-flash via deepinfra) and ended up paying ~$18 for rather light usage. Yes it's still cheap, yes it's fast, but i feel i would still get a better deal with a Claude subscription plan.


DeepSeek without OpenRouter is wayyyy cheaper

Is it? OpenRouter shows DeepInfra being cheaper than DeepSeek directly

https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash-20260731#pr...


I agree with parent. OpenRouter might be cheaper list-price, but i have been using 10$ on DS platform since April/May, still have 2$ left. Using OpenRouter i depleted the same dollar-amount in a 1-2 weeks with same usage pattern. No idea why.

Not used it but from perusing forums, consensus is OpenRouter has terrible/broken caching for Deepseek wildly inflating token use. The cache metrics are visible so you can verify for yourself (apparently, it's what others have done).

What does your usage look like?

DeepInfra's Cache Read is 6.5 times more expensive than DeepSeek.

And in many scenarios, cache hits are 99% of tokens, so the price difference in caching really adds up quickly.

Interesting. My anecdotal experience is that it is.

Going directly though DeepSeek's API and hitting all day long with light/medium tasks I'm at $5/month. That's with pretty vanilla ohmypi.

We've had these for years? My brother has two solar panels on his balcony and plugged into a normal socket.

Is this an ad?

Why is this provider specifically on the front page?

Also why is this not available over openrouter?


Co-founder/CEO here. Not sure how we got to the front page, but we'll take it.

We've been trying to get on OpenRouter. Just reached out to their CEO. Would be great if people could request it as well.

We're unique in that we have B300 in USA, EU, UAE, and AUS.

Also, building out other agentic primitives like stateful actors (in beta, but will be rolled out globally in the coming weeks):

https://developers.telnyx.com/docs/edge-compute/stateful-act...

Also, if you're doing things agentically, check out AI repo:

https://github.com/team-telnyx/ai


Do you guys provide ZDR? We’ve been waiting for someone to offer inference in Sydney on decent GPUs for a while but we’ve got strict no logging or retention requirements.

check out https://developers.telnyx.com/docs/inference/data-residency - chat/completions are stateless; no conversation or logs stored.

Maybe, but how is it different than post for new Macbook?

I don't mind it as long as the company engage in the comments. They haven't so far.

here now.

This (Telnyx) is available on TrustedRouter.com

It really barely matters. Even if the US closes itself of for Chinese models; Europe won't. The rest of the world won't.

Even a completely closed US economy would not merit the current valuations Antrophic and OpenAI have.


This has to be one of the craziest uploads on the internet up until now.

Raw fucking intelligence at your disposal, free to download.

If you'd describe what's happening now to someone from five years ago they'd think you're hallucinating or mad.


I think we felt the same when Apache or MySql was releasing back in ancient times.


Apache and Mysql aren't general purpose brains


>Someone please enlighten me what the actual argument here is, cause I can’t see it.

These people paid a lot of money to Trump and now they want to cash in on that bought influence.


Don’t even need to look into Trump’s pockets. The entire US economy and the bet on AI depend on OpenAI & co. doing well. If you can download a Chinese model and run it on your own hardware instead of giving money to an American corp, a large part of their valuation vanishes into thin air, and so does the rest of the US economy that desperately needs AI to do well.

I admire China for its cunning, having put the US on this spot in their long-going economic war. If unchecked, it’s in China’s interest to release to the world for free models that can compete if not surpass the frontier ones.


Then Apple M series is also a joint European-American effort, no? Since ARM is European?

Weirdly enough it never seems to work that way in discourse.


Should add China to the list of pretty much all of them as well. It’s a silly take.


I also tested tailscale, headscale and netbird and found all these drain your battery on mobile.

Others report no issues but I had massive drain on iOS even with only 4 connections open.

Native wireguard is unnoticeable.


I used to think that it was kind of good to train your immune system (kind of whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger). I no longer believe that.

Vaccines are a method of training your immune system…


Based upon their comment talking about vaccines being good, I'm assuming they mean catching something intentionally to train your body at a convenient time.

I remember 30 years ago kids used to be put together if one had chicken pox so the others could catch it to get it out of the way. Covid parties, etc.

This is now considered a bad move.


> This is now considered a bad move.

... for now.


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