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I’ve always thought the same thing with regards to early explorers. Being on a ship, sailing into the complete unknown, for months. How would you not go insane?

Wow, I would sign up instantly for such a voyage to Mars. I am probably too old but knowing why you are engaged in a heroic task makes one happy to tolerate all kinds of problems. Sure they might get a bit twitchy but gonna stay basically glued.

Have you ever undertaken a similar heroic task to have this wisdom or are you just assuming?

Every single risk he identifies as a concern regarding China is exactly my concerns with the US having absolute control. Literally the exact same concerns

It's projection. These tech CEOs know what they are doing and it scares them that someone else might do the same.

its not the tech CEOs its the financial interests behind them (they own all the AI companies)

Yeah. Exact same concerns here as a non-american. Their "national security" is a constant threat to the rest of us.

Yep. Sick of reading stuff that operates under the assumption that America is the faultless good guy and the only one to be trusted with the most dangerous and capable technology.

Among many other things, the Trump presidencies (and, to a lesser extent, the presidency between them) are examples of the the highest levels of leadership being totally incompetent, and have destroyed the above assumption for the rest of the world.


The rising price of hardware is already doing just that

I don’t need the fastest car to get to where I’m going. I need a car that gets me to where I’m going at the speed I’m comfortable driving at.

I would argue that they actually don’t lack talent, they have an insane bench of really smart people. What they lack is any sort of direction and leadership. They are a ship lost in the ocean and up until now have been lucky to find a few treasures along the their way.

> they have an insane bench of really smart people.

Filtered heavily into those who care only about money. Many don’t want to work there. Smart people have other choices.


Thank you. I agree. I hope this is the new learned sentiment for Meta employees.

Smart? Check.

Money-obsessed and soulless? Check.


I truly think it’s because we are in the “Find out” phase and most people have very little hope (justifiably) in anything meaningful actually occurring that can prevent or mitigate climate change even a little bit.

It is also fairly disheartening to see a lot of proposed responses just quietly get shelved because it was economically not idea on the short term. A lot of them were fairly weak to begin with and even they couldn't hold.

I don't think it will be grim forever, this isn't "DOOOOMED, WE ARE ALL DOOMED!" but I am not holding out for the Frutiger Aero future of only a few decades back.


If true then they paid under $800 Million for their 6%, now valued at $94 Billion.

Yes, google they paid $900 millions in 2015 for about 7% stake, 100X. % Number probably fell because of all the "merging".

I was gonna say, this just puts more pressure to deliver ground breaking research with limited resources. And if history teaches us anything it’s that scarcity produces ingenuity.

http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html

> One thing that should be learned from the bitter lesson is the great power of general purpose methods, of methods that continue to scale with increased computation even as the available computation becomes very great. The two methods that seem to scale arbitrarily in this way are search and learning.


Right, and if you come up with an efficiency gain that makes scaling better, e.g. a 50% reduction in required compute. Or even asymptotic improvements e.g. moving from quadratic to linear. Then you're much much better off.

There is nothing about the bitter lesson that says just be dumb and pour money into a hole, you still have to invent the methods to scale well, and being under immense pressure with constraints seems likely to produce that research.


It reminds me a bit of the tyranny of the rocket equation. You can always scale your fuel to get a little more delta V, with ever diminishing returns. …but for something like a DEEP space/interstellar mission, it almost always pays to wait a few more years for a faster propulsion system because you’ll get there fastest by always delaying your launch and chasing better technology.

I’m not sure how well the analogy holds up, or if there’s anything to be learned from it though.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_travel#Wait_calcu...

Certainly applies more general imho. Constrained by some resource -> invest resources elsewhere, and/or invest in reducing the constraint(s) encountered.


The implication here is that the only gains left to be had are from scale. That we are already maximally efficient. If that's true, then how has OpenAI repeatedly bragged about reducing the cost of their models by orders of magnitude? (And DeepSeek Flash even more so, of course.)

But we have not been maximally efficient, we keep gaining efficiency. If we keep gaining efficiency, why should we assume it is impossible to gain more?


So what? There are physical and economic ceilings on dumb computation scaling.

americas tech stack always ends up bloated. not everything is worth learning.

endlessly knowing about pokemon is not delivering value proposition

cancer also grows carelessly.


You have this flipped backwards

I’d love a shed sized battery sitting on the corner of my property if it could give me 5-7 days of power.

I'm writing this from my off grid shack.

I have 15kwh of lifepo, and even if it weren't hooked to 4kw of solar I could still run my fridge, charge my phone, and run the fan in my fireplace for 4-6 days... longer if I dump the fridge.

It's 6U of deep 19" rack space.

So 2 x that isn't an entire shed-sized battery.

Though I'd happily have a shed-sized battery... I suspect that delivering and covering something that size would cost more than the batteries I already have, though.


> It's 6U of deep 19" rack space.

If the GP commenter is typing in from the UK .. that's a not uncommon garden tool shed size.

By contrast modern Australian farm sheds have clouds forming within them and host birds that seasonally migrate from one side to the other.


You’ll be fine as long as you don’t go near the corners. The spiders are… vicious…

They make hyper-insulated refrigerators for use on ships with limited electricity that use either vacuum insulated panels or aerogel insulation.

Fortunately for me, I could just bop down to the bog box store and buy a more appropriate fridge from vevor; horses for courses.

I've never had to turn off my fridge, though it does have interesting-to-me usage patterns; it's weird what you can learn once everything you use has a watt-meter. I can look at the weekly graph and recall when I turned on a hammond organ or cooked in my instapot.


Check out https://github.com/dalathegreat/Battery-Emulator

Re use old ev batteries unmodified for battery storage


For something like a battery backup that last decades that doesn't need maintenance, maybe you could bury it out of the way (like under a deck or lawn?), maybe even under the frost line.

Underground is a big problem with it comes to water permeation and flooding.

The other potential problem with a lot of energy systems that use things that have hydrogen in them is running power over the systems for long periods of time can start to leak hydrogen. You'll always want to ensure you have ventilation to ensure whatever is outgassing can escape the system. You'll end up with explosions, hydrogen embrittlement, or interesting corrosion in ways you didn't think were possible.


might need to be in some special containment at that size, depending on the technology -- some sodium ion battery implementations are very toxic / highly reactive / flammable.

That would you pay for that shed size battery?

Depending on just how much more cost effective sodium battery tech gets, that might not be a questionable proposition

You can get a 16kWh LFP battery for $2-3k USD.

I mean, I pay around $2,000 (AUD) per annum for electricity from the grid.

If this battery plus some solar panels could get us free power for the next 20+ years, that's easily worth $15-$20k or so.


I am about 2 years in to my off-grid solar setup. The cost for the easement was looking to be about $25k, plus about 30k for the wire, transformer, et.

I live in middle of nowhere so I just built out a system myself. I am about 8k into it. It's not the biggest system (6kw inverter, 4kw panels, 15kwh storage) but it's fine for one old man living a 2kM in the high desert.


Just to clarify - you were looking at 50k+ for an on grid setup and solar + battery has cost you 8k so far?

Yes.

I live in a very rural spot with a difficult-to-deal-with Electric Association, with a Ute reservation on one side and unpowered parcels on other sides; I don't think that the easement is a typical issue.

And to be clear, I didn't count my labor in designing or implementing the system. I suspect that would have been somewhere in the neighborhood of another $10K if I had to get a hands-off, turn-key version of this same system.

And at some point I will likely double much of the capacity, at which point I will be able to run a mig welder at night if I want...


It's called diesel fuel.

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