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Rather than guessing, have you considered asking?

Sure, sometimes people haven't reasoned themselves into positions, and won't simply be reasoned out of them. But understanding others' epistemology is still the first step to changing minds.

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>> I know some people who are adamantly against solar and wind

I'm guessing about those people. It's very clear that renewable energy is considered to be a liberal ideology by those that oppose renewable energy.

> Sure, sometimes people haven't reasoned themselves into positions, and won't simply be reasoned out of them. But understanding others' epistemology is still the first step to changing minds.

Both of your points are true but in effect are a contradiction to the original discussion. The moment somebody uses the word woke non-ironically as a reasoning point they are beyond reasoned discussion (at least from my experience). It's beyond vexing because there's no room for real dialog, just talking past each other.


You are the one using the term woke, it's no where in the article.

The only people using these terms with regards to solar is terminally online people or people who watch 24/7 news.

Texas has more solar capacity than California, does that make Texas woke?


> You are the one using the term woke, it's no where in the article.

Yes.

> The only people using these terms with regards to solar is terminally online people or people who watch 24/7 news.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Ending...

This is a real thing. The reason why I mentioned it is the Trump admin actively killed wind projects and is doing everything it can to destroy renewables so it can be replaced by "clean, beautiful coal"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/04/trump-coal-d...

I loathe the word "woke" but it is a catch-all phrase used by most Trump supporters. I've seen many articles about the conflict over renewables where this dynamic is in play.

> Texas has more solar capacity than California, does that make Texas woke?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/30/opinion/texas-wind-renewa...

I'm happy to discuss this further if you're willing to engage in good faith.




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